[AT] Help with Ingersoll compressor

Mon May 16 12:00:24 PDT 2016

Cecil , at one time I had a parts and operation manual on that compressor ,
sold my business in 2008 and the current owner is in process of shutting it
down . I attempted to contact him to see if he has disposed of all the OLD
manuals but is not answering his cell phone today . So , if it were me , I
would remove the line going into air intake , apply air pressure into
DIAPHRAGM and see if it is shutting off ( possible leaking diaphragm )
which it probably isn`t working . You can make a NEW diaphragm very easy .
If that is working properly , I would work my way back towards the governor
control because somewhere along the line , you are LOSING air. If all else
fails , send me your phone number to bohinch at gmail.com  and I will call you
and try to walk you thru what I would do to trouble shoot the problems .
When I was working on those compressors 25 plus years ago , I made my own
vanes and wrapped my own air/oil filters and made most all diaphragms .

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net>
wrote:

> Bo:
> Thanks for responding...  It is a DR250 Ingersoll.  250 cfm sliding vane
> compressor...  It builds up to about 105psi and slows the engine down
> then still builds up to 185 psi and blows the relief.  I need to find a
> way to drop the final pressure.  It has a small regulator that has to
> outlet connections,, one goes to the inter stage pressure gauge and the
> other goes to the idle controller, and then out of the idle controller
> to a diaphragm on the  air intake side.  The little regulator had a
> broken diaphragm, so I installed an old Oxygen regulator in its place,
> but it makes no difference.  I removed the lines from the idle
> controller and it has flow through and then goes to the diaphragm on the
> air intake.  I put air into the diaphragm on the intake and hear it
> moving.  I even removed the diaphragm assembly and it pushes on what
> looks like a small cast finned turbine that moves in and out.  I have
> not gone any further.
> Cecil in oKla
>
> On 5/16/2016 11:32 AM, Bo Hinch wrote:
> > What kind of info do you need .
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Ken Knierim <ken.knierim at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Cecil,
> >>      As a manufacturer who designs, builds and supports complex
> equipment,
> >> putting together a manual most people will throw away isn't always a
> paying
> >> use of resources either... and the lack of manual-reading is directly
> >> related to people thinking they know everything (on target with your
> >> comments about parts-changers coming out of school). A lot of people are
> >> crashing through their lives so fast they don't take the time needed to
> >> learn to do the job right. Why read a map or manual when google knows
> all?
> >> Or they'll call in for support after the warranty period has expired,
> want
> >> answers without wanting to pay for them, and won't crack the manual.
> >>      We're working a different strategy on some of our newer stuff...
> we're
> >> putting some of the PDF's on our website to let the webcrawlers pick
> them
> >> up so folks CAN find and get access to the manuals when they finally
> decide
> >> they need them. I wouldn't really expect a company that's been bought
> and
> >> sold to have a lot of older manuals online but I've had good luck
> finding
> >> home-scanned versions by looking for the product name and putting manual
> >> and a .pdf in the search criterion. Not sure it'll help, but might be
> worth
> >> a shot.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps,
> >>
> >> Ken in AZ
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 8:00 AM, Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I need some help with the Gyro Flo Vane compressor I bought last week
> to
> >>> sandblast and clean out my old baler.  I thought one of you guys had
> >>> some experience with these..  The pressure is too high and it is bowing
> >>> the relief valve.  It runs as high as 185-190 psi. Ingersoll Gyro Flo
> >>> was bought by Doosan in NC in 2007..    A lot of information is just
> non
> >>> existent and none of the "experts online" can give any real help.
>  Most
> >>> of these online "experts just say that the unit is not worth repairing
> >>> and to buy a new one.    I could not even afford a 10 year old one with
> >>> 1/2 the output of this one!!!    There is just no diagnosis ability
> >>> anymore.   The mechanics that are coming out of the trade schools have
> >>> no idea how to repair anything.  They just change parts.   The
> >>> manufacturers don't give out service literature anymore, they get a
> >>> fortune for it, so ther is not a lot floating around out there.  I
> blame
> >>> a lot of this B.S. on plain old GREED, and the other on not having high
> >>> school shop classes anymore.
> >>>
> >>> On another note, we now have to pay for all those "smart" innovations
> on
> >>> the new cars and trucks due to the new drivers not paying attention to
> >>> their driving, their smartphone needs to be looked at 59 minutes an
> >>> hour.  Maybe just maybe if we put Drivers education back in the high
> >>> schools, the new drivers would have some idea how to safely drive...
> >>> If someone was not paying attention back when we were driving in H.S.
> >>> the "coach" would stomp on the brake ( in a safe area) and your nose
> >>> would hit the steering wheel!!  He then would tell the driver and the
> >>> rest of the passengers what would have happened if the driver had
> >>> continued...
> >>>
> >>> Now they drive like they are playing a video game....
> >>>
> >>> Rant off...   I am just so frustrated with trying to get an operating
> >>> compressor so I can go back to work.   The Sullair and the Leroi both
> >>> need that blasted Ford 140 OHC engine overhauled.
> >>> My problem now is I don't have budget, help, time, and physical ability
> >>> to get things done now...
> >>>
> >>> Cecil in OKla
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