[AT] Off Topic not intended to be political

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Fri Jul 22 08:21:59 PDT 2016


yes, we had peanut allotments here too.  Not in my specific area and
not on our farm but not far down the road.  They were very similar to
tobacco allotments in the way they operated.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: tmehrkam at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 2:03 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic not intended to be political

We were farming Peanuts.  You have to have an allotment for peanuts.

You could get a dry land allotment or an irrigated allotment.  At the time 
no new allotments were being issued so you had to lease the allotment from 
someone that previously had an allotment and was not using it.
Or find someone willing to sell the allotment.  Having a peanut allotment 
was like free money so if someone sold it was very expensive.  Quite a 
racket.
For all that the government told you how much to plant and how to tend it. 
Some years you had to plow some of the crop under.  Could not use it even 
for hog feed.
Many people just planted. Putting the minimum amount of money and work in it 
and collected the crop insurance. Why do any different if there was a good 
crop the prices were nothing.

As with all government programs the weight of the paper work could exceed 
the weight of the crop.
A meeting about paperwork requirements was is what angered my Uncle to the 
point of treating to shoot the SOB.
There was a huge celebration with the allotment program was discontinued.
The same thing was happening with Rice.  We leased our peanut allotment from 
a family who farmed about 30,000 acres of rice. They had no interest in 
peanuts.



      From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic not intended to be political

All of the farm programs are and always have been to protect consumers.
They started in the early 20th century because commodity prices swung wildly
from season to season because acreage reports were not available.  Farmers
would underplant a crop one year and the guys that did plant it would get
rich.
The next year everyone would plant it to get in on the high price and the
bottom
would drop out of the market.  The government really didn't care about the
farmers,
they cared about the voters and the big businesses (mill, fertilizer and
equipment as you said Cecil).

That's precisely why the programs should go away now.  There is enough
access to data and enough
of a commodity market infrastructure that the government controls really
aren't needed other than
tracking planting data and crop conditions.

Ralph can correct me if I'm wrong but I think up north the government
actually tells the farmer how much
to sell, on what dates and how much he's going to get paid.  Right Ralph?
That keeps the farmers from
going broke I guess but mainly it stabilizes prices to the consumer.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Cecil Bearden
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 12:11 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic not intended to be political

Dad always said the Gummint subsidies were not for the farmer they were
for the elevator and the miller.  As soon as the guvmint would publish
the target price, wheat prices would drop to make up the difference.
When we quit harvesting wheat with a combine and put it in hay, we began
to make money.  Dad also said if the Guvmint ever gets into the cattle
business, we are screwed.
Cecil in OKla



On 7/21/2016 8:16 AM, tmehrkam at sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Nothing political about it.  Just common sense.
>
> I am not a farmer not because of the hardships of the job and nature but
> because I could not abide the meddling Government trying to tell you how
> to do things each step of the way.
> I farmed on my own two years and decided that was not what I wanted to do.
> I remember seeing my uncle on his front porch loosing patience and telling
> the 20+ year old Government bureaucrat that he was going in the house to
> get his rifle and he better be off his *&&^ place when he gets out.  He
> was all of 7 ft tall bad tempered by that time and meant every word.
> The guy was out of range before my uncle reached the front porch. I
> thought about it long and hard and enrolled in engineering school the next
> year.
> Some times I regret it but then I think back to that day and  get over it.
>
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> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>  Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 7:28 AM
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> I think this best sums up what is wrong with the present situation...
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> Cecil in OKla
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