[AT] Off Topic not intended to be political

Cecil Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Thu Jul 21 16:30:36 PDT 2016


Ralph: I remember raking hay at 1am with a baler right behind and the 
haulers behind that.  Or getting up at 4am to rake, and waiting until 
the next morning for more dew to fall to bale.  The main reason we went 
to round bales.   I also remember well baling with a Hesston 5500 or a 
Vermeer 605 & 504 behind a Ford 5000 with no cab.   The Hesston had an 
electric actuator for the twine, but about every 3rd bale you had to get 
off and cut the twine.  The vermeer had a rope to pull the twine 
across.  Looking back against the wind while baling would ensure you 
would be washing dist and chaff out of your eyes for the next week.  I 
bought one of those Airstream helmets for baling.  It sure made a 
difference.

Cecil in OKla


On 7/21/2016 3:36 PM, Ralph Goff wrote:
> On 7/21/2016 11:33 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>    That's precisely why the programs should go away now. There is enough
> access to data and enough of a commodity market infrastructure that the
> government controls really aren't needed other than tracking planting
> data and crop conditions. Ralph can correct me if I'm wrong but I think
> up north the government actually tells the farmer how much to sell, on
> what dates and how much he's going to get paid. Right Ralph? That keeps
> the farmers from going broke I guess but mainly it stabilizes prices to
> the consumer. Charlie
> Charlie, you are talking about the old Canadian Wheat Board which is
> pretty much history now . The younger farmers/grain marketers thought
> they could do a better job marketing the wheat than the wheat board did.
> After a few years of that I am not so sure. As somebody already
> commented, when grain prices and markets improve there is always someone
> else, a middleman, who benefits more than the farmer.
> I'm just in for late dinner after raking hay all morning. In the air
> conditioned cab it is not a dirty or tiring job even at 82 degrees. But
> thats not how my father and grandfathers did it.
>
> Ralph in Sask.
>
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