[AT] Spam> Re: Older Tractor Question

Dennis Johnson moscowengnr at outlook.com
Sat Jan 30 12:45:48 PST 2016


Greg,

I tend to agree with Bo.  Pumps generally do no fix themselves after 30 minutes.

Try loosening a pump discharge line to see if that helps the pump prime. Having restrictions in the discharge makes it hard for a pump to reprise itself.

Thanks
Dennis

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> On Jan 30, 2016, at 9:18 AM, Bo Hinch <bohinch at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I would NOT bet on a bad pump , first thing I would do is look for the
> unloader / relief valve . If it is not seating properly , you would loose
> the fluid ( drains back into reservoir ) and when starting after sitting
> overnight or several days , the pump is having a hard time repriming itself
> . That happens quit a lot more often than folks give it credit for ,
> especially if the unloader/relief valve is HIGHER than the pump . Been
> there and done that .
> 
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 7:55 AM, Richard Fink Sr <rfinksr at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> Greg not tractor related but i had a problem like your father an older
>> Plymouth after all the nothing is wrong my brother inlaw an i decided we
>> had changed all that would cause problem. This was back in 60s so we
>> talked it over and tried the impel route and quickest. Replaced head
>> gasket about 2 hour job on old flat head , problem solved.
>> R Fink
>> PA
>> 
>>> On 1/29/2016 10:12 PM, Greg Hass wrote:
>>> I would like to thank those who replied to my question. I am thinking
>>> the pump is the problem. I don't know how to get the red power site;
>>> however, a few months ago Red Power magazine had an article about
>>> rebuilding the area where the pump is. Unfortunately, I was busy at the
>>> time and did not read the whole article and do not remember their reason
>>> for the rebuild although I do remember they put in a new pump. Also I
>>> have "temporally" misplaced the article and it would take me several
>>> hours to find it again. The part that makes me mad is that my cousin
>>> took his to the dealer and several hundred dollars later they found
>>> nothing. The replies I got on this list tell me far more than the dealer
>>> know (I think all they did was change filters and put in all new oil).
>>> They want to be warm and toasty, so they never tried leaving it out in
>>> the cold overnight and trying it in the morning. A bad thing is that
>>> over the past 20 years our IH dealer has went way downhill as far as
>>> service knowledge goes. That is one reason why this list is so great.
>>> P.S. years ago my dad had a car that would not start in cold weather.
>>> Three times he had it in to the GM dealer and they found nothing.
>>> Finally my dad said "of course its going to start in your 70 degree shop
>>> even after sitting all night. Try leaving it out in the back lot and
>>> then try it in the morning." They took his advice and found the problem
>>> in less than a minute, it was a sticking choke. Thanks again to all.
>>>           Greg Hass
>>> 
>>>   Another P.S. backing up the pump theory is the fact that all three
>>> tractors had just over 5000 hours on them suggesting that is the pump
>>> life. Most other problems would be more random as far as hours before
>>> problem occurred.
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