[AT] Modern Gasoline

Fri Aug 26 04:19:07 PDT 2016

Those engines have a 25 hour oil change interval. 3 8 hour days is 24
hours, if they ever work overtime or two shifts they could not go 3 days
between oil changes. Every two days is easy for everyone to track, and
ensures that the maintenance is done. 

-- 
  Henry Miller
  hank at millerfarm.com

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016, at 11:53 PM, Mike M wrote:
> Can you explain further Ken? I've never heard of this type of service 
> interval?
> 
> Mike M
> 
> On 8/25/2016 4:51 PM, Ken Knierim wrote:
> 
> > Th, oil changed every 2 days, Engines would last
> > 4-6 months.
> > Ken in AZ
> 
> 
> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> This is interesting stuff, and it's the reason I posed the question.  I'm
> >> not sure if I've ever seen one of these types of carbs.
> >>
> >> SO
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:49 PM, <rlgoss at twc.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> But there were actually several different designs of those carb/gas tank
> >>> combinations that looked alike but operated differently. Some had a
> >>> built-in settling bowl that the built-in gas pump had to keep
> >>> full-to-overflowing for the engine to run.  The fuel pump was FOREVER
> >> going
> >>> bad so I bought replacement diaphragms in lots of 10 so I didn't have to
> >>> make a shopping trip whenever I needed one.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Larry
> >>>
> >>> ---- Mogrits <mogrits at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Stephen,
> >>>>
> >>>> In a word: simplicity.The old Briggs carbs had no floats to get
> >>> saturated,
> >>>> no needle and seat to stick or wear out, no tiny passages and no float
> >>> bowl
> >>>> to collect crud to ruin the above mentioned parts. I guess they used
> >> the
> >>>> entire tank as a "bowl". I realize they are limited in that the carb
> >> must
> >>>> sit on top of the tank, but man, were they simple. If the motor
> >> wouldn't
> >>>> start or run correctly, you just unscrewed the gas cap and looked in
> >> the
> >>>> tank. If you saw water or trash in it, two bolts had it off and
> >> emptied.
> >>>> Warren
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Warren:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Interesting.  From a purely technical standpoint, how is the old B&S
> >>>>> venturi carb superior?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> SO
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Mogrits <mogrits at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Stephen, I have no idea, as I haven't left gas in one that long,
> >> but
> >>> if
> >>>>>> someone would mate the old Briggs and Stratton venturi carb (no
> >> bowl
> >>> and
> >>>>>> float) to the Honda OHV design with electronic ignition, they would
> >>> have
> >>>>>> the ideal small engine.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Warren
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Stephen Offiler <
> >>> soffiler at gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Do those Chonda engines run on 18-month old gas like the real
> >>> thing?
> >>>>>>> SO
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Mogrits <mogrits at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Charlie, that should indeed work as a replacement for him. I
> >> put
> >>> one
> >>>>> of
> >>>>>>>> those on a Murray 20" push mower body to create what I call
> >>>>>>> "Frankenmower".
> >>>>>>>> Starts just like a Honda, and cuts through most anything
> >> without
> >>>>>>> complaint,
> >>>>>>>> including "monkey grass" or lariope. Some people have adaptor
> >>> issues
> >>>>>>> mating
> >>>>>>>> them up, but the review section of the Harbor Freight page
> >> gives
> >>>>>>> solutions
> >>>>>>>> to almost all of those.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Around here we call them "Chondas", as they appear to be
> >>> knock-offs
> >>>>> of
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> Honda OHV design.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Warren
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 6:47 PM, charlie hill <
> >>>>>>> charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Dick wouldn't this work as a replacement for the 5.5 vertical
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/55-hp-173cc-ohv-vertical-
> >>>>>>>>> shaft-gas-engine-carb-69731.html
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Charlie
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>> From: Dick Day
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 11:20 PM
> >>>>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Modern Gasoline
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Several years ago, I converted our 15-year old Generac
> >>> generator to
> >>>>>> LP.
> >>>>>>>> It
> >>>>>>>>> always did start easy (electric start) but with LP I can
> >>> connect it
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> our
> >>>>>>>>> 500gallon LP tank if we ever got stranded by a blizzard.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> My other gas implements (push mower, 2 garden tractors, power
> >>>>> washer,
> >>>>>>>>> tiller) don't always start as easy even though I would let
> >> the
> >>> gas
> >>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>> in the fall.    My plan was to convert every gas engine we
> >> had.
> >>>>> I've
> >>>>>>>> also
> >>>>>>>>> got a Troy Built sickle mower. That was next on my list to
> >>> convert
> >>>>>>> until
> >>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>> discovered that there are no engines I can buy to replace the
> >>>>>> vertical
> >>>>>>>>> 5.5hp Briggs that's on there.  I don't think that converting
> >>> it to
> >>>>> LP
> >>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>> necessarily hurt the engine but decided not to take a chance
> >>> and
> >>>>>> never
> >>>>>>>> got
> >>>>>>>>> around to the other engines. I retire next spring. Once that
> >>>>> happens,
> >>>>>>>> I'll
> >>>>>>>>> get back on my LP conversion project.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Stephen Offiler <
> >>>>> soffiler at gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I just pulled out my power washer and realized it has not
> >>> been
> >>>>> run
> >>>>>>>> since
> >>>>>>>>>> March 2015.  Half a tank of fuel still sloshing around.  On
> >>> the
> >>>>>>>> upside, I
> >>>>>>>>>> am always careful to turn off the gas and run the carb dry.
> >>> I am
> >>>>>>> also
> >>>>>>>>>> careful to add Sta-Bil as soon as I purchase gas.  We have
> >>>>> ethanol
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>> our
> >>>>>>>>>> gas around here like in most places in the USA.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It started on the first pull.  Literally.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Engine is a 9HP Honda GX270 (I think).  I suppose there
> >>> might be
> >>>>>>>>> qualities
> >>>>>>>>>> of the engine (strong spark, strong fuel vaporization in
> >> the
> >>>>> carb,
> >>>>>>>>>> whatever...) that help it run on crappy old gas.  Or
> >>> something.
> >>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>>>> still
> >>>>>>>>>> shaking my head in amazement.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> SO
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