[AT] Garden question

Thu Aug 4 10:10:13 PDT 2016

There is a current controversy in Europe concerning the use of glyphosate.
Among other things but perhaps most crucial; barley doesn't malt well when
glyphosate has been used, or so says.

 http://countryfolks.com/crop-comments-old-country-gets-ornery/#more-7442

Just kidding, it is considered to be a suspected carcinogen - too.

Couldn't put my finger on the article concerning the algae bloom, but this
article is from the same author / magazine.

FYI, I have been known to use glyphosate from time to time.  Current
research is probably important here as the manufacturer's have funded most
of the older research.

Carl

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That's a far better resource.  The author's credentials are pretty clear,
and it is extensively referenced.  If I was to nitpick I'd fault it for the
C of the CRAAP test which is Currency.  This was most recently updated in
1998 and originally published earlier than that.  There has been a ton of
work studying glyphosate in the last 18 years.

SO

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:25 AM, <tmehrkam at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Glyphosate
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> FYI
> Link directly from Cornell with references.
> Another.
>
> http://www.cdpr.ca.gov/docs/emon/pubs/fatememo/glyphos.pdf
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>       From: Carl Gogol <cgogol at twcny.rr.com>
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> Not an argument Charley, but I recently read that scientists are 
> starting to link the size of the phosphate rich bloom in the Gulf of 
> Mexico with the acres of roundup ready crops planted in the 
> Mississippi / Missouri watershed.  Roundup / glyphosate (sic?) is, 
> after all, an organic phosphate.
> The phosphorous in it cannot disappear even if the poison breaks down 
> into mostly benign substances.
> Carl
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> hill
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> Ivan the vinegar is a good tip, thanks but glyphosate (Round Up) gets 
> a bad rap in the media.  The stuff breaks down to nitrogen and carbon 
> dioxide in a relatively short time and is harmless to humans and 
> animals.
>
> I know someone will argue so instead of arguing with me read this 
> article prepared from research by Cornell University.
> http://www.ehow.com/how-does_5436386_long-roundup-stay-soil.html
>
> Charlie
>
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> From: Ivan
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 8:26 PM
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>   I used to use roundup ,now using horticurtual grade vinegar  10% .
> Mix with a tablespoon of dishsoap tand spray witha garden sprayer . I 
> suppose you could dab it on with one of the previously mentioned 
> devices .  Key thing is vinegar has to be 10% . The stuff sold in the 
> grocery stores for kitchen use is not strong enough . I've been 
> getting mine off Amazon  , last time all I could get was 20 % so mix 
> it half vinegar and half water to dilute it .  Remember that vinegar 
> is an acid so be carefull when handling it . It will burn eyes or 
> sensitive shin but washes off with water and brakes down to harmless 
> stuff within 24 hours without any nasty long lasting chemicals to 
> poisen things .  It is not selective so use it carefully .  Ivan On 
> 8/3/2016 2:37 PM, Greg Hass wrote:
> > My garden is where the old cattle yard was. Things grow great and 
> > the soil is easy to work; I use my farmall cub to work and cultivate 
> > the garden, however, once things get a little big weeds take over. 
> > My back won't allow much hand weeding and weeds get a couple of feet 
> > high in a short time. I have seen, at least in Agri-Supply,  a stick 
> > like thing with a 6 inch rope wick thing on the bottom and you put 
> > round-up in it and swipe the weeds and it is supposed to kill them and
not your plants.
> > Anyone ever used them and do they work or is it just more money down 
> > the drain.
> >            Greg Hass
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