[AT] Modern Gasoline
David Rotigel
rotigel at me.com
Sun Aug 28 09:32:51 PDT 2016
I use Stabil in all the gasoline tanks I have that will sit over the winter. That includes a 1953 MH, all my stationary engines (1914 to 1923) my chain saw and my weed eater, my generator/welder and my wife’s car. NEVER had a problem with any of them! (My F250 and my Kubota don't seem to need the Stabil!)
Dave
> On Aug 28, 2016, at 12:08 PM, Spencer Yost <yostsw at atis.net> wrote:
>
> My only really bad experiences with ethanol fuel is with very small engines like chainsaws, weedeaters and blowers. I use ethanol free fuel for those. Anything larger I have not had much trouble with. The few times I had what I believe to be fuel issues in the larger engines were in the spring, were minor, and I can always start the engine. A little seafoam later it would be running fine. I do not typically use stabil in the winter. I wouldn't store it in the tank longer than a southern winter though...
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> Spencer Yost
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> Spencer Yost
>> On Aug 23, 2016, at 10:06 AM, Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> My only comment on that is to raise the possibility that multiple separate
>> Chinese factories might be building Honda clones, and only one of them (per
>> your info) is using Honda tooling and quality control.
>>
>> SO
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 9:35 AM, Henry Miller <hank at millerfarm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> As I understand, the Chinese had a contract to make Honda small engines
>>> for a few years. The contract didn't require them to give any of the
>>> molds back after the contract was up. The Chinese just had to change the
>>> name. In short these are Honda engines, probably with Honda designed
>>> quality control, but made by someone else.
>>>
>>> The patents on the Honda engine are long expired. All Honda has is a
>>> name and quality control. The Chinese seemed to be learning quality
>>> control, and they had a leg up because Honda didn't give the contract
>>> without first ensuring good quality control that they just need to
>>> continue.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Henry Miller
>>> hank at millerfarm.com
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016, at 07:47 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>>>> That's interesting Cecil and it sort of suggests that the Chinese managed
>>>> to knock off whatever is good about the Honda that makes it tolerate old
>>>> gas.
>>>>
>>>> SO
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:21 AM, cecil bearden <crbearden at copper.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have one on a sprayer and it set for over a year and had the worst
>>>>> smelling gas in it. I had to pull on it about 4 times before it
>>> started
>>>>> and ran fine. I sprayed with it a week ago and had no problems.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/23/2016 6:50 AM, Mogrits wrote:
>>>>>> Stephen, I have no idea, as I haven't left gas in one that long, but
>>> if
>>>>>> someone would mate the old Briggs and Stratton venturi carb (no bowl
>>> and
>>>>>> float) to the Honda OHV design with electronic ignition, they would
>>> have
>>>>>> the ideal small engine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Warren
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Stephen Offiler <
>>> soffiler at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do those Chonda engines run on 18-month old gas like the real thing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SO
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Mogrits <mogrits at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Charlie, that should indeed work as a replacement for him. I put
>>> one of
>>>>>>>> those on a Murray 20" push mower body to create what I call
>>>>>>> "Frankenmower".
>>>>>>>> Starts just like a Honda, and cuts through most anything without
>>>>>>> complaint,
>>>>>>>> including "monkey grass" or lariope. Some people have adaptor
>>> issues
>>>>>>> mating
>>>>>>>> them up, but the review section of the Harbor Freight page gives
>>>>>>> solutions
>>>>>>>> to almost all of those.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Around here we call them "Chondas", as they appear to be
>>> knock-offs of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Honda OHV design.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Warren
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 6:47 PM, charlie hill <
>>>>>>> charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dick wouldn't this work as a replacement for the 5.5 vertical
>>>>>>>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/55-hp-173cc-ohv-vertical-
>>>>>>>>> shaft-gas-engine-carb-69731.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Dick Day
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 11:20 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Modern Gasoline
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Several years ago, I converted our 15-year old Generac generator
>>> to
>>>>> LP.
>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>> always did start easy (electric start) but with LP I can connect
>>> it to
>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>> 500gallon LP tank if we ever got stranded by a blizzard.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My other gas implements (push mower, 2 garden tractors, power
>>> washer,
>>>>>>>>> tiller) don't always start as easy even though I would let the
>>> gas run
>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>> in the fall. My plan was to convert every gas engine we had.
>>> I've
>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>> got a Troy Built sickle mower. That was next on my list to convert
>>>>>>> until
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> discovered that there are no engines I can buy to replace the
>>> vertical
>>>>>>>>> 5.5hp Briggs that's on there. I don't think that converting it
>>> to LP
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> necessarily hurt the engine but decided not to take a chance and
>>> never
>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>> around to the other engines. I retire next spring. Once that
>>> happens,
>>>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>>>>> get back on my LP conversion project.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Stephen Offiler <
>>> soffiler at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just pulled out my power washer and realized it has not been
>>> run
>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>> March 2015. Half a tank of fuel still sloshing around. On the
>>>>>>>> upside, I
>>>>>>>>>> am always careful to turn off the gas and run the carb dry. I am
>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>> careful to add Sta-Bil as soon as I purchase gas. We have
>>> ethanol in
>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>> gas around here like in most places in the USA.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It started on the first pull. Literally.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Engine is a 9HP Honda GX270 (I think). I suppose there might be
>>>>>>>>> qualities
>>>>>>>>>> of the engine (strong spark, strong fuel vaporization in the
>>> carb,
>>>>>>>>>> whatever...) that help it run on crappy old gas. Or something.
>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>> shaking my head in amazement.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SO
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