[AT] Old baler guidance needed

Wed Apr 20 09:40:23 PDT 2016

Burford made the knotters for most of the balers.  I remember my old 
Boss saving a Burford knotter off a salvage baler at the tractor shop I 
worked at when I was going to college.  I think they were made in 
Maysville, OK.

Cecil in oKla

On 4/20/2016 10:44 AM, Gene Dotson wrote:
>      You are right about the knotters. There were only 2 types made. One was
> the International that was a headache to keep working. Rest of the industry
> used the other type. So NH, Case, Massey, Ac and others used the other type.
> My Case model 200 was purchased for $300.00 and has been very reliable and
> only had to replace a couple hay dog springs. It is very particular as to
> twine and have to use 9000 foot sisal twine.
>
>                  Gene
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gunnells, Bradley R
> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 11:20 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Old baler guidance needed
>
> Ah the saga of a baler. I’ve still got the old IH 46 you brought me parts
> for when Brice was scrapping one out.
>
> Once when mine was down I borrowed an old AC square baler. I think it was a
> 303 (or 404) but it worked pretty well…that is after I found and replaced a
> broken spring on the knotter assembly. The funny part was it was the same
> knotter on an old NH 66 that was in my fence line. Swiped the spring off it
> and away I went. I’m wondering if there were only a couple manufacturers of
> knotters and other brands bought them? (or copied the design?)
>
> In any case, one in that kind of shape at that price seems like something
> worth pursuing. As others have said….a manual goes a long way to knowing
> what to adjust and where.
>
> Good luck and keep us posted.
>
> Brad
>
>
>
>
> On 4/19/16, 6:16 PM, "at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com on behalf of
> Spencer Yost" <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com on behalf of
> yostsw at atis.net> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Cecil.   I am fairly impressed with this baler.  The only problem is
>> transportation.   It's about 60 miles away.    The owner has the manual and
>> is the grandson of the original owner.   It has  been a backup baler to
>> their newer New Holland  for the last 20 years.  As a sidenote, they bale
>> wheat straw and oat straw almost exclusively. Which is a little unusual for
>> this area. Most people bale grass hay around here.   It saw recent use
>> about two years ago when the wheat was so thick he said you could walk
>> across the fields on bales of wheat straw without touching the ground.
>> The owner agreed to demonstrate its field readiness and is only 700$ -
>> which around here is a good price for a working baler.
>>
>> Spencer Yost
>>
>>> On Apr 19, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Spencer:
>>> I have hauled a lot of hay from a #3 baler.  If we could cut it and get
>>> it into a windrow, that baler baled it.  A neighbor had it and baled all
>>> our hay and a few other neighbors.  I hauled hay with all the other
>>> kids, we worked right in the field with it.  I don't remember it having
>>> any real issues.   If it has been shedded, it will be just as good as a
>>> newer model.   Plenty of grease on those blocks is the most important
>>> thing.
>>>
>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/19/2016 10:47 AM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>>>>>  From the "ain't farming fun" department.....
>>>> As you folks may remember, I have only 5 acres to bale.   I do manage it
>>>> fairly intensively so there is a lot of hay there and always worth the
>>>> effort.   I mow and tedd and a neighbor rakes and bales it.
>>>>
>>>> Short story:   I now need a baler - Can anyone share experience with the
>>>> Massey #3 baler?   I looked at one in very nice shape for very little
>>>> money.  #3s are a wood block instead of roller bearing baler but the
>>>> blocks seem to be in good shape.  The Massey is really straight and
>>>> shows very little wear.   Very tight chains and signs of continual
>>>> maintenance and mostly shed storage.
>>>>
>>>> Long story:  My neighbor who bales for me has a family member - another
>>>> farmer also - in the hospital and he says he can no longer do my hay
>>>> because he now also has their hay to worry about.   I know better than
>>>> to ask to borrow his equipment so I am left to scramble for a rake and
>>>> baler and get them within 3 weeks.  I would say "forget it" and just buy
>>>> hay, but I have $500 in lime, seed, fertilizer, and have spread lots of
>>>> composted manure.    It would be a a real loss to just mow it and then
>>>> have to buy hay.  Because it is only 5 acres, cost is a huge concern and
>>>> am willing to make do with any old thing that will put up 400-500 bales
>>>> a year.  I just don't want a baler that everyone knows is a "problem
>>>> baler". I have never even picked up bales behind a Massey baler; let
>>>> alone operated or owned one.   I am still looking for a custom baler but
>>>> I am coming up with zilch for a custom baler that will do square bales.
>>>> A few in the area will do round bales.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>>
>>>> Spencer Yost
>>>>
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