[AT] Old baler guidance needed

Wed Apr 20 08:44:50 PDT 2016

    You are right about the knotters. There were only 2 types made. One was 
the International that was a headache to keep working. Rest of the industry 
used the other type. So NH, Case, Massey, Ac and others used the other type. 
My Case model 200 was purchased for $300.00 and has been very reliable and 
only had to replace a couple hay dog springs. It is very particular as to 
twine and have to use 9000 foot sisal twine.

                Gene

-----Original Message----- 
From: Gunnells, Bradley R
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 11:20 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Old baler guidance needed

Ah the saga of a baler. I’ve still got the old IH 46 you brought me parts 
for when Brice was scrapping one out.

Once when mine was down I borrowed an old AC square baler. I think it was a 
303 (or 404) but it worked pretty well…that is after I found and replaced a 
broken spring on the knotter assembly. The funny part was it was the same 
knotter on an old NH 66 that was in my fence line. Swiped the spring off it 
and away I went. I’m wondering if there were only a couple manufacturers of 
knotters and other brands bought them? (or copied the design?)

In any case, one in that kind of shape at that price seems like something 
worth pursuing. As others have said….a manual goes a long way to knowing 
what to adjust and where.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Brad

On 4/19/16, 6:16 PM, "at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com on behalf of 
Spencer Yost" <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com on behalf of 
yostsw at atis.net> wrote:

>Thanks Cecil.   I am fairly impressed with this baler.  The only problem is 
>transportation.   It's about 60 miles away.    The owner has the manual and 
>is the grandson of the original owner.   It has  been a backup baler to 
>their newer New Holland  for the last 20 years.  As a sidenote, they bale 
>wheat straw and oat straw almost exclusively. Which is a little unusual for 
>this area. Most people bale grass hay around here.   It saw recent use 
>about two years ago when the wheat was so thick he said you could walk 
>across the fields on bales of wheat straw without touching the ground. 
>The owner agreed to demonstrate its field readiness and is only 700$ - 
>which around here is a good price for a working baler.
>
>Spencer Yost
>
>> On Apr 19, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net> wrote:
>>
>> Spencer:
>> I have hauled a lot of hay from a #3 baler.  If we could cut it and get
>> it into a windrow, that baler baled it.  A neighbor had it and baled all
>> our hay and a few other neighbors.  I hauled hay with all the other
>> kids, we worked right in the field with it.  I don't remember it having
>> any real issues.   If it has been shedded, it will be just as good as a
>> newer model.   Plenty of grease on those blocks is the most important 
>> thing.
>>
>> Cecil in OKla
>>
>>
>> On 4/19/2016 10:47 AM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>>>> From the "ain't farming fun" department.....
>>>
>>> As you folks may remember, I have only 5 acres to bale.   I do manage it 
>>> fairly intensively so there is a lot of hay there and always worth the 
>>> effort.   I mow and tedd and a neighbor rakes and bales it.
>>>
>>> Short story:   I now need a baler - Can anyone share experience with the 
>>> Massey #3 baler?   I looked at one in very nice shape for very little 
>>> money.  #3s are a wood block instead of roller bearing baler but the 
>>> blocks seem to be in good shape.  The Massey is really straight and 
>>> shows very little wear.   Very tight chains and signs of continual 
>>> maintenance and mostly shed storage.
>>>
>>> Long story:  My neighbor who bales for me has a family member - another 
>>> farmer also - in the hospital and he says he can no longer do my hay 
>>> because he now also has their hay to worry about.   I know better than 
>>> to ask to borrow his equipment so I am left to scramble for a rake and 
>>> baler and get them within 3 weeks.  I would say "forget it" and just buy 
>>> hay, but I have $500 in lime, seed, fertilizer, and have spread lots of 
>>> composted manure.    It would be a a real loss to just mow it and then 
>>> have to buy hay.  Because it is only 5 acres, cost is a huge concern and 
>>> am willing to make do with any old thing that will put up 400-500 bales 
>>> a year.  I just don't want a baler that everyone knows is a "problem 
>>> baler". I have never even picked up bales behind a Massey baler; let 
>>> alone operated or owned one.   I am still looking for a custom baler but 
>>> I am coming up with zilch for a custom baler that will do square bales. 
>>> A few in the area will do round bales.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>> Spencer Yost
>>>
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