[AT] de-greasing disc brakes

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Sun Sep 27 07:53:54 PDT 2015


Dean,  I have to admit to running the engine a tad slow on my new (to me) 
ZTR mower.
I know it is better to keep the mower blades at high speed and slow the 
travel speed
but the thing is so quick that if I run the engine at full speed or even 
near full speed
the mower tends to get ahead of me!

I guess I'm just too heavy handed on the steering levers or maybe it
has a habit based on how the previous owner ran it.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dean VP
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 2:33 PM
To: 'Antique tractor email discussion group'
Subject: Re: [AT] de-greasing disc brakes

Charlie,

That story sure brings back some memories.  I chuckle now about his 
conservative use of the throttle on the tractor. I do things like that now 
as I've become ancient. However, this can be taken too far.  I had to 
re-train my wife about how much throttle was needed on a JD Garden Tractor. 
For some reason she thought it was best to run at about 3/4 full throttle 
while mowing. Not as intended.  But what really got her in trouble with me 
for a while was when I had strange acting main belt on the GT.  If one 
started up the GT with the tractor at full throttle it would start up fine, 
but if the GT was running at anything less than full throttle it would throw 
the belt. The belt  wound around several belt pulley's and idlers on the 
deck and was a real PITA to get back on.  So when the belt was thrown bad 
words would occur. I never could figure out what was wrong with that belt 
but didn't replace it like I should have because it was a $60 plus belt. 
And if one stated up at full throttle it always stayed on.  I lived with it 
a few years. Then it finally broke. Put a new JD belt on and it can be 
started at any speed.  Don't know what was wrong with the old one but my 
guess was it must have been a tad long or had been made the day after a long 
holiday.

Dean VP
Snohomish, WA 98290

“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the 
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”  … Sir 
Winston Churchill

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of charlie hill
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 6:23 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] de-greasing disc brakes

Steve the first time I used my uncles 35 to cultivate soy beans,
I got to the end of the first two rows pulling the rolling cultivator
and tried to do what I had seen the other guys do.  I pulled up the
lift lever and stood up on the right wheel brake as hard as I would
have needed to on our Allis D-10.   The Massey turned around so fast
that the first time around I missed the end of the next two rows and
had to go all the way around again making a 540 deg turn instead of a 180.
That time I got it right.  My uncle was standing at the other end of the
field shaking his head!   He was old school and would have come to a
complete
stop, lifted the cultivators and then slowly made the turn.  He didn't much
like the way I drove his tractor.  I wasn’t hurting it but in his mind I was
but
he didn't say anything.  Just shook his head.

He always ran the tractor with the throttle set at the line on the
tachometer for
"PTO".  He said don't run it wide open.  I told him that is what the
governor was for.
He didn't much like that either.  grins.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Steve W.
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:58 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] de-greasing disc brakes

charlie hill wrote:
> Back in the days when I was a boy on the farm I was always
> amazed at how well the brakes on my uncles MF 35 deluxe worked.
> When working the tractor at 2 row width you could hit  the petal and
> that wheel would stop dead in it's tracks and the tractor would pivot
> around it.  It was almost as good as a carnival ride to a 10 year old
> boy.
>
> I've thought many times I'd like to figure out a way to retrofit disc
> brakes onto one of my D-14's just to see if it would work.
>
> Charlie
>

The 35 Deluxe I have will do that IF the axle seals don't leak into the
drums! The old F-20 will spin you around right smartly BUT don't try
stopping a heavy load on a hill, you run out of hands REAL fast...

-- 
Steve W.
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