[AT] Charlie Hill,

Mon Oct 5 13:15:21 PDT 2015

Thanks Tom,  I have 20 plus years experience in heavy construction.
I know people that own cranes.  I know people who operate
cranes and I know how to estimate the size crane needed to do a job.
In my case It would have to set up on one side of my house where there
is a power line that would be in the way and reach about 70 feet out
across the roof of the house and hook to the tree about  60 feet
up.  The crane would have to have about 125 feet of boom and would
have to be capable of lifting  about 18,000 lbs or more boomed out that far.
Believe me that takes a lot of crane,  I haven't looked it up in the charts 
yet
but it would be a big one.  At least 50 ton and I'm not sure that's enough.
That much crane can't get down my driveway without some major tree trimming 
and dropping the
power line feed to my house.   It wouldn't be cheap!
Believe me I know what I'm talking about.  I understand the problem.
I just posted it here for conversation purposes.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: tmehrkam at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 2:53 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Charlie Hill,

After IKE one of the neighbors ended up with a pine tree that leaned over 
the house but caught on a tree in the back yard. This kept it mostly off the 
house. The insurance company brought in a large crane.  They hooked the 
cable on the top of the big fallen tree.  Stood it up.  Cut it off and laid 
it down on front of the house.
The crane used was one with a long telescoping boom.  Same type used to 
place cooling units on top of multi story buildings.  It cold reach maybe 
six stories high.
There was an episode on This Old House where they used a crane  to remove 
some trees in the front yard.  Those trees could have been safety blocked. 
These areas were near big cities where there are a number of these cranes 
available.
Maybe it is not as expensive as thought.  Any way if you get a company who 
is bonded and does these things for a living they will figure out the least 
expensive way to do it safely.

      From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] Charlie Hill,

Yeah you are right Mike,  that is probably the easiest way to handle it.
The advantage you had was the man was on your property already with the
excavator.  Now days in this state at least it is expensive to move
excavators
because of over width and over weight permits.  It would cost more to get
one
here than to get the work done after he arrives.  If I get lucky I'll catch
one in
the neighborhood sometime.  I have friends that own excavators but it's too
much of a favor to ask them to move them without fair compensation.
The tree isn't going to fall right away unless we get a really bad wind
storm.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2015 10:54 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Charlie Hill,

Charlie, if you're handy with a chainsaw, hire an excavator. I had a guy
digging a pond for me with a good size excavator. I had a 100 year old
dead Ash tree that was too dangerous to cut. As he was tracking back to
where the pond was I asked him if he thought his machine could take that
down for me. He just grinned and said, "where do you want it?" He raised
his bucket up and pulled the top off away from any of our buildings,
they just shoved the whole thing over, done in about 5 minutes or less.
The only thing is you will be left with a big hole where the root ball
was. But heck, $100 worth of top soil and that's no longer a problem. A
lot cheaper that $2K.

Mike M

On 10/4/2015 8:45 PM, charlie hill wrote:
> I have a huge pine tree in front of my house.  It's very healthy but for
> some
> reason it has been progressively leaning toward the house for several
> years
> now.  The way it is situated it can not be safely cut and thrown.  It will
> have
> to come down in blocks from the top down.  I figure it will cost a couple
> of
> grand minimum to get it down.  It's starting to worry me. If it gives
> loose
> and falls all at once it will cut the house in half.    I think there is
> just a
> slim chance that it can be felled in one piece but I'll need something
> like
> a
> winch truck or a large excavator to makes sure if falls the right way.
> Time will tell.  If it fell right now, given where I am sitting in the
> house,
> you wouldn't likely hear from me any time soon if at all.  LOL.
> I don't think it will go all at once unless we get a very bad hurricane.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Bruce
> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2015 3:56 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Charlie Hill,
>
> Maybe just a bit less on the other side of the river Spencer but much
> the same. One thing happening here is with the steady wind and the
> saturated ground from the last couple weeks events some trees are
> falling. Nothing on me or mine other than a few medium to small limbs.
> However my neighbor down on the creek says he has quite a few on the
> ground.
>
> David
> NW NC
>
> On 10/4/2015 8:54 AM, ATIS wrote:
>> We only got 2.4" in this most recent event, but we have had rain a bunch
>> of consecutive  days, and that has totaled nearly 6" and contributed to
>> the flooding. I overheard the local weather guy say that yesterday broke
>> a
>> record of 10 consecutive days  of rain in Greensboro nc - about 30 miles
>> east of here.  We had about 6/100 this morning so that makes 11 days.
>>
>> 48 degrees yesterday morning and high winds so it was cold rain as well.
>>
>> www.rdfarms.com/weather
>>
>> Spencer Yost
>
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