[AT] Rear tires slipping on rim

Fri May 22 07:30:41 PDT 2015

On 5/16/2015 5:51 AM, Cecil R Bearden wrote:
> There is no one who is going to make anything happen.   It appears that
> the warranty begins when the tire is manufactured.  If you buy a tractor
> today and do not install it until next year, the warranty is probably no
> good.  If I pay full price for tires again they will be AkURET Russian
> built tires.
>
> I am mad enough to chew nails.
>
> The Indian factory for Speedway directed the US distributor to take care
> of this problem.  The local OK distributor first tried to tell  me that
> I was in Nebraska!!!!   He mis-dialed my phone number andemailed me
> that  I was in Nebraska.  Then I was contacted by this deep voiced pushy
> East coast accent who never really identified himself as being with
> Speedway but seemed to be the worlds authority on how to set up a tire
> plant.  I He told me he could not find the company I bought my tires
> from.  I guess he did not know how to type...   They are an importer of
> Belarus tractors.   I bought a pair of Russian tires at the same time
> that I had no problems with.
>
> This is just like the crap I get from New Holland about my TS110 that
> sucked a valve ( finally determined the problem)  It is not repaired
> yet, but the dealer only charged me $3200 to determine that...
>    Last year the control cable broke on my 10 yr old Belarus 8345. The
> factory rep sent me a new cable ($115) free of charge, and included
> copies of the service manual on how to replace.   It was a US made cable!!!
>
> I have ordered and bought high dollar items direct from overseas
> suppliers and had no problems.  I order from a local or US supplier and
> there is always a problem.  I have been waiting for 2 months for a
> Variable Frequency Drive  from a US warehouse in CA. I ordered 2 units
> and they shipped one.   They have problems in their warehouse.  Probably
> employees stealing.  While waiting they lowered the price of the item by
> $36.  I can order the same item direct from China and get it for $50
> less if I wait 3 to 4 weeks. I ordered from this warehouse because they
> were in the US.   So far I have not had problems with direct from China.
>
> Be careful with that Ebay and Paypal guarantee, they are a real pain to
> file against.  Each time you make a contact, they push your settlement
> date back by a month...
>
> Obviously Speedway tires will not be bought again.   Funny thing, I have
> 2 sets in the barn of other sizes that were bought at the Farm show in
> December that have no serial numbers either.   I have some tires for my
> scraper and loader that are brand new and have no serial numbers....
> I think I can translate that East Coast accent better since I verified
> that my other tires have no serial number.   The Okie translation would
> be "ScrewYOU, I got my money"
>
> When I listen to US business cry about foreigners taking over their
> business, I don't have any sympathy......  They probably deserved it.
>
> Cecil in OKla
>
>
>
>
> On 5/16/2015 5:56 AM, jtchall at nc.rr.com wrote:
>> I like that he was making suggestions and not offering a refund for the
>> tires, that speaks volumes for that company. At this point I say you have
>> nothing to lose but your temper to get results, certainly need to direct the
>> frustration at someone who can make something happen. Got a feeling though
>> you won't get any results, you may just have to chalk this up to lessons
>> learned, and you didn't even know you were going to school.
>>
>> John Hall
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cecil R Bearden
>> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 2:38 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Rear tires slipping on rim
>>
>> maybe you all  remember I have had problems with my 2-105 White tractor
>> rear tires slipping on the rim.   I have not had the chance to break
>> them down and try the glycerin yet, I have been advised by a factory rep
>> from Speedway tires not to do it as it might melt the rubber.  However,
>> his suggestion was to wrap the rim with Duct tape!!!!!!!!
>>
>> They asked for the serial number of the tires.  I could not find one on
>> the sidewall, only a white circular inspection stamp.  Factory rep told
>> me that this meant that the tires were made before 2010. Factory was
>> revamped etc after 2010, and sidewalls were serial numbered.
>>
>> Once again, I bought from a US supplier and got screwed.
>>
>> If any of you guys buy new tractor tires and they do o have a serial
>> number on them be aware that they are probably old stock and been
>> sitting in a warehouse somewhere.  The Ozone deterioration prevention
>> chemical is not there, etc......
>>
>> I thought I got a good deal on these tires at $600 ea, but after the
>> $400 in replacement tubes, they have not been much of a bargain.
>>
>> I think I am just going to remove the tube, put a small amount of
>> Glycerin on the beads and mount it tubeless.  Install my methanol
>> ballast and see what happens.
>>
>> Cecil in OKla
>>
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As a commercial farmer, I have learned the challenges of who you deal 
with. In my business career of now 41 years I learned that there is huge 
value in finding good suppliers and sticking with them most of the time. 
I buy 95% of the tires I use through a local business and if there is a 
problem they take care of it. I do about $25-30K in business with them a 
year between tires and mechanical activity. Funny enough they take care 
of the problems even if the supplier is uncooperative to them every 
time. I got up to about $20K with the local NAPA store and have dealt 
with them since I bought my first tractor in 1974. Again, if there is a 
possible way to correct a problem the owner does so.
      Sometimes it comes down to finding the one person that cares in a 
business. Staples closed the local store when they downsized the stores 
to finance more online sales. There was one manager that would correct 
the STUPID errors made by nearly everyone else in the store and the bad 
stocking practices at the regional level. Now they get 10% the business 
they used to when there was someone who would correct things! And that 
only on a sale item or I cannot get it from anyone else.
      In my seed sales business, I am direct importing from Europe. That 
is a nightmare. I am only glad I do not import from China! The US 
companies I buy from range from WE CARE to WHATEVER. Guess which ones 
Get more and more of my business. Sometimes the nicest people just do 
not have the products I need, then the dilemmas start. I also find that 
at 55 years old, the people who usually are the most conscientious and 
efficient are between about 50 and 70 years old. Not because they are 
closer to my age, but rather that they have been alive long enough to 
learn that customer service and performance are what keeps a job or 
business going and young enough to have the energy to accomplish things. 
I employ people from around 20 to 76 years old and see the generational 
aspects - whether born in a foreign country or the US. Fascinating.
      More to the point of tires that you are encountering, Cecil, I 
find that I do NOT buy Indian made tires and while there are sizes of 
tires that are only available with China manufacturing I otherwise avoid 
Chinese tires like the plague with one brand exception. I have yet to 
find that to be a poor choice. Tires are one of those items that are now 
just plain expensive. Yesterday I replaced two 6.70x15 tires that looked 
to have been manufactured here in the US in the 1960's or early 70's. 
They finally had weather checked too badly and were starting to flake 
apart. Maybe it was their time!
           Grant Brians
           Hollister,California farmer of vegetables, herbs, nuts and fruit.