[AT] Plows, was Re: Supervision

[charlie hill]

Grant,  most of the soil around here is either sandy loam or clay with
the clay (of course) being the most challenging to plow.  No one plows
much now days but back in the day my dad and most of the other farmers
used a small Coca Cola bottle as their depth guage.  I'm guessing that
was probably 6 1/2" or so.  I always tended to plow deeper.  I liked to
go down until I started seeing bits of the sandy sub soil turn up here and
there which for us was maybe 9 or 10" at the most.  I'm thinking if you can
pull a 4 bottom plow (I'm assuming 16" plows?) more than 10 inches in
your soils you are doing pretty darned good and getting most of your 100 HP.
I'm not sure the brand of plow is making that much difference.  As for the 
JD 60 and the
three bottom JD 825's I just don't have a clue.  Not familiar with them at 
all.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Grant Brians
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 7:03 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: [AT] Plows, was Re: Supervision

I liked Dean's story about the JD60 renewal. It is a lot like one of my
Oliver 77's bought for parts that the brakes did not work. They were new
but never correctly adjusted!
      But I have a question for the list related to the JD 825 three
bottom plow and the JD60 tractor. We run several 4 bottom plows (IH and
AC) that are connected to our JD6430 four wheel drive tractors - 100HP
roughly, the motors are rated close to 125HP I believe but the PTO is
105 and the drawbar is probably 94? Those tractors are working about as
hard as they can with those plows pulling usually about 14-16" deep. Is
it just we have dry hard soil here in California or are those plows
being run MUCH shallower for you folks in the other parts of the
country? Just out of curiousity....
             Grant Brians - Hollister,California vegetable, herb,
orchard farmer and seed businessman
On 6/26/2015 11:59 AM, Dean VP wrote:
> Tyler,
>
> I didn't go into all the details because it would have made the message 
> too long.  Yes I did have to
> clean up the carburetor but I didn't have to remove the steel balls.  The 
> tank did not have a bunch of
> crap in it except that it was rusted out above about the 3 gallon area. I 
> drained it first, cleaned
> the sediment bowl and then put new gas in and found out it leaked after 
> about 3 gallons. That has
> since been fixed.  The tractor ran remarkably good when it first started 
> but one could tell that some
> of the rings might be stuck and that a valve was sticking occasional. 
> After getting the tractor up to
> temperature(covered the grill) and pulling it hard for a while everything 
> cleaned up. I've never had
> the engine apart.  I don't know how ugly it really is inside but it runs 
> good and doesn't blow blue or
> black smoke out the chimney. It works good as a loader tractor for loading 
> heavy stuff off/on to an
> equipment trailer. It even handled a model 825 3 bottom roll-over plow. 
> They are really heavy.  One
> of the reasons I wanted this particular 60 is it has a Behlen aftermarket 
> power steering unit on it
> with a Behlen governor driven live hydraulic pump on it .  There are times 
> when I thing the power
> steering works better than JD's version.
>   The only thing bad about the Behlen unit is, it is uglier than sin.
>
>
> Dean VP
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the 
> gospel of envy, its inherent
> virtue is the equal sharing of misery."  . Sir Winston Churchill
>

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