[AT] Tractor OEM filters/Eco Diesel

Mon Jul 27 16:01:35 PDT 2015

According to the late model Ford oil specs, you have to use that 0W-20 
or 5W-20 because the timing chain tensioners will blow out at cold 
startup with the heavier oil.   I have a 2000 5.4 that has a different 
setup, if you use that 5W-30 like they specify, it rattle like a jackass 
in a tim barn for the first 5 seconds after startup.    I use 15W-50 and 
don't have any problems until I let someone else change it

Cecil in OKla

On 7/27/2015 3:04 PM, Thomas Mehrkam wrote:
> I know there was a problem with the Ford Power strokes. If you used the wrong oil the fuel injection would not work.  The oil is used as a hydraulic  oil to activate the fuel injectors.
> My uncle tried to use the same oil he used in his Massy Tractors which had mechanical fuel injection and it cost him a bunch of money.
> I would be very careful using any oil that did not meed the Chrysler specification.
>
> A couple of oils that meet the specs.  There may be other specs that need to be met also.  See your owners manual or look at a bottle for the proper Chrysler oil for the specs used in that.  There are two one oil made by Pensoil and another Mobil 1.  See links below
>
> Hopefully one or the other is available at Walmart.
>
>
> Pennzoil Platinum Euro L 5w30 1 Quart (507.00 229.51 MS-11106), IDParts.com
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> Mobil 1™ ESP Formula 5W-30
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> | Mobil 1™ ESP Formula 5W-30Mobil 1™ ESP Formula 5W-30 is an advanced performance synthetic engine oil designed to help provide exceptional cleaning power, wear protection and overall performance. |
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>       From: Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com>
>   To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>   Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 2:09 PM
>   Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor OEM filters/Eco Diesel
>     
> Mike - with modern diesels, you have to be very careful to use only the
> oils that meet the specific requirements of the engine manufacturer.  I
> don't know the details on the Ram EcoDiesel, but I can tell you the whole
> story from the VW TDI perspective (and note that the Ram has a European
> engine, so I am drawing at least some loose parallels here).
>
> In the case of VW TDI, it is imperative to use only oils that meet VW spec
> 507.00.  What this boils down to is a high quality full-synthetic oil with
> extremely low ash-forming qualities.  You need the high quality synth base
> stock to survive 10,000 mile drain intervals in a highly stressed
> turbocharged application.  And, you need the extreme low-ash qualities so
> you don't plug up the DPF (diesel particulate filter).
>
> Rotella T-6 does not meet the Chrysler specification for the Ram EcoDiesel
> (which according to Google is Chrysler MS-11106)
>
>
> SO
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Mike <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>
>> I would think it would be hard to beat Rotella T6 Synthetic, and it's
>> only about $5 a quart.
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>> On 7/26/2015 10:31 PM, Dennis Johnson wrote:
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> Feel lucky. The new oil and filters for my Ram ECO-Diesel are not yet
>> available at most parts houses. One place listed oil at about $13 per quart
>> (10 qt required), but filter was not available. Therefore dealer charges
>> $198 for oil and filter change every 10,000 miles.
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Jul 26, 2015, at 5:44 PM, Mike <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> OK, so a few months back I bought a Mahindra 4035 to replace an aging
>>>> Massey 255. So far I love it; it sips fuel, and best of all, I'm not
>>>> working on it all the time. The OEM recommends changing the original oil
>>>> at 50 hours, then every 200 after that. So I called the dealer I bought
>>>> the tractor from to see if they had a filter in stock, they did, for the
>>>> bargain price of $27!!!!!!!!!! I mean come on, it looks like a regular
>>>> filter nothing special. I can't believe Mahindra designed their own
>>>> filter when there are thousands of ones already in production. Evil
>>>> Dave, have you had any similar issues with your new Kubota? Any thoughts
>>>> on how to cross this filter? I've tried to cross the OEM number with
>>>> Wix, Baldwin, Donaldson, NAPA, all with no success.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mike M
>>>>
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