[AT] Tractor OEM filters/Eco Diesel

Dave Rotigel rotigel at me.com
Mon Jul 27 18:59:45 PDT 2015


I had problems with my 2005 F250 6.0. The cross valves(?) in the injectors were sticking and it started hard and idled poorly when cold (ie under 40 degrees). After getting the price for 8 new injectors I tried Rev X added to the oil. After adding it the problem went away--did Rev X solve it? I'm not sure, but I add two bottles each oil change! (The only oil that I have ever used in the engine is Rotella!)
	Dave

On Jul 27, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Thomas Mehrkam wrote:

> I know there was a problem with the Ford Power strokes. If you used the wrong oil the fuel injection would not work.  The oil is used as a hydraulic  oil to activate the fuel injectors.
> My uncle tried to use the same oil he used in his Massy Tractors which had mechanical fuel injection and it cost him a bunch of money.
> I would be very careful using any oil that did not meed the Chrysler specification.   
> 
> A couple of oils that meet the specs.  There may be other specs that need to be met also.  See your owners manual or look at a bottle for the proper Chrysler oil for the specs used in that.  There are two one oil made by Pensoil and another Mobil 1.  See links below
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> Hopefully one or the other is available at Walmart.
> 
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> Pennzoil Platinum Euro L 5w30 1 Quart (507.00 229.51 MS-11106), IDParts.com
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> Mobil 1™ ESP Formula 5W-30
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>     From: Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com>
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com> 
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 2:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor OEM filters/Eco Diesel
> 
> Mike - with modern diesels, you have to be very careful to use only the
> oils that meet the specific requirements of the engine manufacturer.  I
> don't know the details on the Ram EcoDiesel, but I can tell you the whole
> story from the VW TDI perspective (and note that the Ram has a European
> engine, so I am drawing at least some loose parallels here).
> 
> In the case of VW TDI, it is imperative to use only oils that meet VW spec
> 507.00.  What this boils down to is a high quality full-synthetic oil with
> extremely low ash-forming qualities.  You need the high quality synth base
> stock to survive 10,000 mile drain intervals in a highly stressed
> turbocharged application.  And, you need the extreme low-ash qualities so
> you don't plug up the DPF (diesel particulate filter).
> 
> Rotella T-6 does not meet the Chrysler specification for the Ram EcoDiesel
> (which according to Google is Chrysler MS-11106)
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> 
> SO
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> 
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Mike <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
> 
>> I would think it would be hard to beat Rotella T6 Synthetic, and it's
>> only about $5 a quart.
>> 
>> Mike M
>> 
>> On 7/26/2015 10:31 PM, Dennis Johnson wrote:
>>> Mike,
>>> 
>>> Feel lucky. The new oil and filters for my Ram ECO-Diesel are not yet
>> available at most parts houses. One place listed oil at about $13 per quart
>> (10 qt required), but filter was not available. Therefore dealer charges
>> $198 for oil and filter change every 10,000 miles.
>>> 
>>> Dennis
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 26, 2015, at 5:44 PM, Mike <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> OK, so a few months back I bought a Mahindra 4035 to replace an aging
>>>> Massey 255. So far I love it; it sips fuel, and best of all, I'm not
>>>> working on it all the time. The OEM recommends changing the original oil
>>>> at 50 hours, then every 200 after that. So I called the dealer I bought
>>>> the tractor from to see if they had a filter in stock, they did, for the
>>>> bargain price of $27!!!!!!!!!! I mean come on, it looks like a regular
>>>> filter nothing special. I can't believe Mahindra designed their own
>>>> filter when there are thousands of ones already in production. Evil
>>>> Dave, have you had any similar issues with your new Kubota? Any thoughts
>>>> on how to cross this filter? I've tried to cross the OEM number with
>>>> Wix, Baldwin, Donaldson, NAPA, all with no success.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mike M
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