[AT] Tractor OEM filters/Eco Diesel

[Dean VP]

Wow, that is a different take on the issues between Ford and Navistar than what I have heard before.
I had heard that the 6.0 engine was fine until Ford added all their stuff to it. Navistar wouldn't
take responsibility for the engine that Ford had changed. Hence the law suits. 

Dean VP
Snohomish, WA 98290

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent
virtue is the equal sharing of misery."  . Sir Winston Churchill

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From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
Rob Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 5:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor OEM filters/Eco Diesel

Navistar didn't have a problem it was Ford dictating what they would pay and didn't want to pay
navistar for the needed improvements. That's why the lawsuit between ford and navistar. Ford cheapened
them up to the point of failure and wanted navistar to pay for their engineering mistakes. 



On Jul 28, 2015, at 7:06 PM, Mike <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:

I don't understand why US truck manufactures consistently feel the need 
to reinvent the wheel. Ford's 7.3 was arguably one of the best engines 
that Navistar produced. The same goes for the  original Cummins diesel 
in Dodge trucks. Why not just keep improving those engines. Find the 
weak points, and improve them. Constantly coming out with under tested 
new engines is a causing them a lot of grief and  unhappy customers.
Mike M


> On 7/28/2015 6:41 PM, Rob Wilson wrote:
> I toured the Cummins mid range plant a couple weeks ago and they are always dispelling rumors like
putting a Cummins in a ford.  It's prettying much just wishful thinking by ford owners hoping for a
good diesel. And on a side note they will help you with your spelling by correcting and letting you
know there is no "g" in Cummins. Stock torque this year is 900 ft lbs with a pretty good rumor that
next year it will be 1000 ft lbs! And U.S. dodge owners thought we had problems with the transmissions
now.
> Rob
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 28, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Thomas Mehrkam <tmehrkam at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> I have been hearing that for a while. Cummings is a good engine but Cummings had some problems a few
years ago.  Remember the cracked blocks on the Dodge.  They cracked right across the freeze plugs.
> Cummins 53 Block Casting Information
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>      From: Richard Fink Sr <rfinksr at verizon.net>
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 9:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor OEM filters/Eco Diesel
> 
> I heard that in 2017 Ford will be able to put the Cummings Diesel
> engines in there trucks. ???????????
> R Fink
> PA
> 
>> On 7/28/2015 12:02 AM, Dean VP wrote:
>> Dave,
>> 
>> I have a friend in CA who went through a 2003 Ford 6.0L which was replaced by Ford for a 2004 6.0L
>> which was replaced by Ford with a 2005 6.0L and that one he didn't even make it out of the dealer's
>> lot before the fan went through the radiator.  He traded it in on a Chevrolet Duramax and hasn't
>> looked back.  I own a 2003 7.3 Liter Ford Diesel engine in my truck and it has been trouble free
for
>> 160,000 miles. The Ford 6.4L wasn't all that much better but the Ford 6.7 L Diesel engine seems to
the
>> best of the bunch so far other than the 7.3L. Consider yourself lucky if your 6.0 hasn't had major
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