[AT] New Holland TS110 saga continues.

Cecil R Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Sun Jul 19 04:01:31 PDT 2015


I started assembling the head this morning as it was 103 yesterday and 
did not get to 95 until about 11 pm.    The humidity is running at 
60-65% due to the wet last 2 months.   The weather man titled the heat 
index map as LUDICROUS Tomorrow the heat index is as high as 112deg..   
I found the new valve keepers would not fit the new valves.  The new NH 
keepers had 3 round beads to hold the valve.  The replacement valves 
were from Sparex, an English Company and they had a single groove.  The 
old head also had 4 valves with single grooves and 4 with 3 grooves.   I 
looked up the size on the SBInternational catalog and crossed the 
numbers to a Sealed Power/Federal Mogul number and then called Oreilly's 
here in OKC.  Their warehouse had 32 of them.  I could wait 4 hours or 
make an hour trip and get them.  I decided to pick them up myself at the 
warehouse.  NAPA did not have any in the state.  Made the trip to the 
local store and paid then made the trip to the warehouse and return.  
Install valves. Then notice that the freeze plug at the end of the head 
where it is covered up by a firewall Plate was missing.  1 3/4 inch 
diameter cup type.  Local Oreilly's store had it and the bolts I just 
found out I needed.  The new head had 7/16 NC bolt holes in the back of 
the head for holding the firewall plate.   Old head had metric.   Both 
heads had same numbers.!!!   Another 30 - 45 minute trip depending on 
counter personnel and traffic.  Sure enough it was a 45 minute trip.   
Returned at 1pm.  Temp was 102deg.  South wind blowing at 15-20 w/65% 
humidity.  I decided that it could be done later tonight..  Even if I 
have to hang lights and spray for bugs...  Temp drops to 85 after 11pm 
here.....
So, another day wasted on this thing.......   Hopefully this thing will 
get buckled up tomorrow.   I have got to spray the shade trees I am 
working under asap as the Bagworms are working 24/7 on them in this 
heat.....

It just never ends.

Cecil in OKla On 7/17/2015 5:53 PM, Mike wrote:
> Cecil, every time I read your stories, and I do enjoy the detail, it
> makes the problems I'm having that day seem so small. You are one hard
> working guy.
>
> Mike M
>
> On 7/17/2015 5:20 PM, Cecil R Bearden wrote:
>> Robert:
>> I had already ordered it before I read your comment so no big deal.
>> The next morning after I called and ordered it, the same head was $500
>> on the web site instead of $200.  I got an email from one of their staff
>> saying they located one for $500.  I called and verified that they had
>> shipped my head and total cost was $282 including shipping.  When it
>> came, I tried to find someone here local that could help me replace the
>> guides.  I hit a dead end everywhere I called.  A engine parts supplier
>> I bought parts from 25 years ago still had one employee who remembered
>> me and would let me buy parts from them.  There are 2 others in OKC and
>> they want a Pedigree and Credit report and shop pictures before they
>> will let me buy from them.  This guy recommended an oil patch engine
>> machine shop about 20 minutes away.  When I arrived they were loading a
>> block in a pickup from a V-12 engine that was hanging over the
>> tailgate!!  They had some heads on a pallet that were nearly 6ft long.
>> I knew that these guys were qualified. Funny thing, they only had 5 guys
>> n the shop.  I think my head was like a vacation for them as the valve
>> specialist really took an interest in it, and he was impressed that I
>> had all the machining information that he would need.  When I told him
>> about the crank grinder I have in a shed, he was a new friend!!  The
>> seat work looks very impressive.  I have to get this tractor going and I
>> did not have time to send it back, and worry with finding another
>> head... In the meantime, a pet calf that we raised on a bottle knocked
>> over a heavy piece of iron near where we were working and broke the
>> glass sediment bowl on the engine.  Last time we had to buy one it was
>> $50.  It is one of those stupid designs that should never be put on
>> agricultural equipment.  I found that the popular short cartridge filter
>> will work with the aluminum sediment bowl from the earlier filters.  I
>> got  a new filter and the bowl from the dealer for $39..  Hopefully it
>> is not too long to fit above the injection pump.  It just never ends
>> with this tractor...  I told some of the earlier stories about this on
>> Tractorbynet and got a really snide response from a guy in New York who
>> seems to be a technician.  He told me I should not expect so much, that
>> this equipment breaks down and just suck it up...      Well, I now have
>> nearly $50,000 worth of sucking in a tractor now worth about
>> $25,000.........     Similar to the drug forfeiture f150 worth about
>> $5000 that I have nearly $10,000 in..  Thanks to some nice but
>> unqualified service technicians........       That truck is the reason I
>> tried so hard to find someone to show me how to replace the seats.
>>
>> Cecil in oKla
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/17/2015 3:38 PM, Robert wrote:
>>> Cecil
>>>
>>> Sorry to hear about your issues with the head from Wengers.  I've bought stuff from them and always found it was as represented and good parts!  I feel a little guilty as I was one of the people that said you wouldn't be disappointed
>>>
>>> Have you contacted them to discuss the condition??  Just wondering what they had to say?
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 4:08 PM, Cecil R Bearden <crbearden at copper.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Received the head from Wenger's for the TS110 late Friday.  Waited until
>>>> Sat morning to look at it.   Good thing.  It was noted that it Mag
>>>> tested OK, but it was a magna-fluxed boat anchor.  It appeared it had
>>>> water in it  for a long long time and they just bead blasted it.  The
>>>> combustion chamber was pitted and the valve seats were beyond repair.  I
>>>> looked at my old head again and found that the guide area was cracked on
>>>> the cylinder that broke the valve.  Also found that the head had been
>>>> worked on before, it had some different valves and had some chunks out
>>>> of the head near the valves on another cylinder.  This is the tractor
>>>> that i bought showing 1200 hours and now has 2000 hours.
>>>>
>>>> I found a good machine shop that does oil patch diesel engines and
>>>> yesterday morning dropped the head off with all the seat information.
>>>> I have a valve seat installing machine but have never used it, I did not
>>>> feel like learning on this head.   I picked the head up after lunch
>>>> today ( yeah fast service was my thoughts) and for only another $410  it
>>>> was ready for the all new valves springs rotators and keepers.
>>>> Hopefully If I can last through the heat ( 110 heat index here today )
>>>> I will have it running by Monday.
>>>>
>>>> If you ever order a part such as a head or block from a company, have
>>>> them send some high def pictures before you commit to buying............
>>>>
>>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>>
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