[AT] Cold weather starting

Richard Fink Sr rfinksr at verizon.net
Thu Jan 8 01:50:48 PST 2015


Boy Dave i agree on farmer would say Cold, it is 4 below in central PA 
this morning with a wind about 20MPH
R Fink
PA





On 1/7/2015 8:21 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:
> Right now, Charlie, I'm sure that Farmer would simply say that the grounds are COLD!
> 	Dave
>
> On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:31 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>
>> John, now that Farmer is back with us he's going
>> to tell you to check the grounds!
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jtchall at nc.rr.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 6:19 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Cold weather starting
>>
>> I'm still dealing with a Deere 12/24 system. A lot of folks on here have
>> given me input over the years on maintaining or modifying it. Somehow I just
>> never have time to do anything about updating it! We park it near a charger
>> and block heater as well as have some starting fluid nearby. If I used it
>> more often, I'm sure it would work its way up the priority list!
>>
>> John Hall
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cecil R Bearden
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 3:13 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Cold weather starting
>>
>> Ralph:
>> It started this morning with no ether.  It had set outside with a little
>> wind protection, but it was 22deg with a 30 mph wind!!   It had to crank
>> about 15 seconds to really get it going.   I had a Massey Ferguson 85
>> with the continental diesel.  There was no way that it would start in
>> cold weather without pulling it.  I also have one of those 4010 John
>> Deere's that had the 12/24 starting system.  The problem with them was
>> the generator had a 12v+ and  a 12v- post.  one battery was hooked
>> positive ground and the other negative.  I fought that system for 5
>> years until one cold winter day, i bought a 12V starter at NAPA and
>> built a 1 wire alternator for it.  With 2 Group 31 batteries mounted on
>> the loader frame under the cab, It wold start in the coldest weather.
>> Those special John Deere narrow batteries were too small to ever start a
>> diesel in cold weather...  I really like the 12/24 system on the
>> Belarus.  I have had no problems with it as long as I have good
>> batteries in it....
>>
>> Cecil in OKla
>>
>>
>> On 1/7/2015 8:46 AM, Ralph Goff wrote:
>>> On 1/7/2015 6:39 AM, Cecil R Bearden wrote:
>>>>     I am down to the Belarus 822 for my utility tractor.  It refused
>>>> to start without pulling  3 times last week
>>>>
>>>> I need to feed some hay again this morning and the wind chill is below
>>>> zero, so I guess will see if that problem is solved.  Next chore is to
>>>> replace the trackhoe bucket hose that is 9 ft in the air...  With this
>>>> wind, that is going to be a really cold job...  I know it is not as cold
>>>> as Ralph has to endure, but for OKla, this is cold.  they are closing
>>>> some schools because of the wind chill..........
>>>>
>>>> Cecil in OKla
>>> Hi Cecil
>>> Just be thankful you don't have the -30 wind chills we have here this
>>> week. Have to say I am a little surprised
>>> your Belarus won't start. My old Massey never fails to fire up on a
>>> couple of turns of the starter every morning.
>>> Even the single 12 volt battery is enough providing I've had it plugged
>>> in for at least an hour. The oil was a little stiff
>>> and the hydraulics slow but it gets the job done so far.
>>> But then I have never heard anything good about the 24 volt starting
>>> systems either. Seems to me most of the
>>> John Deeres that came with that system were converted to 12 as an
>>> improvement.
>>> This Massey was originally 2 six volt batteries in series but I have
>>> never used anything other than a single twelve volt.
>>>
>>> Ralph in Sask.
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