[AT] Cold weather starting

Thu Jan 8 01:54:58 PST 2015

Farmer wood shops in winter are for making mistakes and saw dust.
R Fink
PA

On 1/7/2015 10:37 PM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
> The grounds are waaaaaaay too cold tonight...
> These days sometimes I even have trouble getting my recliner to start.
> I have become very fond of float chargers. The truck we use as a daily
> driver is sitting in the shop near a propane torpedo heater "just in case".
> The tractors will mostly just be sitting waiting for spring. Several years
> ago I walled off a 24' x 40' room in the basement and moved my woodshop
> there so at least I have a warm place to putter in the winter. I don't
> accomplish much but that isn't the goal anyway.
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> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:
>
>> Right now, Charlie, I'm sure that Farmer would simply say that the grounds
>> are COLD!
>>          Dave
>>
>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:31 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>
>>> John, now that Farmer is back with us he's going
>>> to tell you to check the grounds!
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jtchall at nc.rr.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 6:19 PM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Cold weather starting
>>>
>>> I'm still dealing with a Deere 12/24 system. A lot of folks on here have
>>> given me input over the years on maintaining or modifying it. Somehow I
>> just
>>> never have time to do anything about updating it! We park it near a
>> charger
>>> and block heater as well as have some starting fluid nearby. If I used it
>>> more often, I'm sure it would work its way up the priority list!
>>>
>>> John Hall
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Cecil R Bearden
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 3:13 PM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Cold weather starting
>>>
>>> Ralph:
>>> It started this morning with no ether.  It had set outside with a little
>>> wind protection, but it was 22deg with a 30 mph wind!!   It had to crank
>>> about 15 seconds to really get it going.   I had a Massey Ferguson 85
>>> with the continental diesel.  There was no way that it would start in
>>> cold weather without pulling it.  I also have one of those 4010 John
>>> Deere's that had the 12/24 starting system.  The problem with them was
>>> the generator had a 12v+ and  a 12v- post.  one battery was hooked
>>> positive ground and the other negative.  I fought that system for 5
>>> years until one cold winter day, i bought a 12V starter at NAPA and
>>> built a 1 wire alternator for it.  With 2 Group 31 batteries mounted on
>>> the loader frame under the cab, It wold start in the coldest weather.
>>> Those special John Deere narrow batteries were too small to ever start a
>>> diesel in cold weather...  I really like the 12/24 system on the
>>> Belarus.  I have had no problems with it as long as I have good
>>> batteries in it....
>>>
>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/7/2015 8:46 AM, Ralph Goff wrote:
>>>> On 1/7/2015 6:39 AM, Cecil R Bearden wrote:
>>>>>     I am down to the Belarus 822 for my utility tractor.  It refused
>>>>> to start without pulling  3 times last week
>>>>>
>>>>> I need to feed some hay again this morning and the wind chill is below
>>>>> zero, so I guess will see if that problem is solved.  Next chore is to
>>>>> replace the trackhoe bucket hose that is 9 ft in the air...  With this
>>>>> wind, that is going to be a really cold job...  I know it is not as
>> cold
>>>>> as Ralph has to endure, but for OKla, this is cold.  they are closing
>>>>> some schools because of the wind chill..........
>>>>>
>>>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>> Hi Cecil
>>>> Just be thankful you don't have the -30 wind chills we have here this
>>>> week. Have to say I am a little surprised
>>>> your Belarus won't start. My old Massey never fails to fire up on a
>>>> couple of turns of the starter every morning.
>>>> Even the single 12 volt battery is enough providing I've had it plugged
>>>> in for at least an hour. The oil was a little stiff
>>>> and the hydraulics slow but it gets the job done so far.
>>>> But then I have never heard anything good about the 24 volt starting
>>>> systems either. Seems to me most of the
>>>> John Deeres that came with that system were converted to 12 as an
>>>> improvement.
>>>> This Massey was originally 2 six volt batteries in series but I have
>>>> never used anything other than a single twelve volt.
>>>>
>>>> Ralph in Sask.
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