[AT] now Heart concerns

[David Bruce]

Mine is a bit younger than me but he also has that focus. He stays up to 
date and tries to stay current with nutrition but he will tell anyone 
that is not his strength. He has been my doc for about 20 years now and 
I suspect he will outlive me although he might retire before I expire.

As was mentioned earlier if you don't trust your doc time for another. 
My live is mine to manage but he is there to help me.

David
NW NC

On 2/22/2015 10:21 AM, Mogrits wrote:
> That's a broad brush you are painting with there, Stephen. My family
> physician is about my age, and his primary focus with my family and I
> assume his other patients is to keep me healthy. He reads quite a bit about
> preventative medicine and keeps himself up to date. I know this because he
> never fails to scratch out a website link on a scrap of paper for me to
> read and try to implement. He is working as hard as I am to get me off BP
> meds and on certain targeted natural and vitamin supplements like vitamin D
> and fish and garlic oil. He detests insurance as well as obamacare and
> gives a huge discount for cash paying customers.
>
> Not all Doctors are as you describe.
>
> Warren
>
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Doctors exist to fix broken people.  Until you are broken, they sit back
>> and watch you break yourself with bad choices such as smoking, drinking,
>> bad diet, insufficient fresh air and sunlight and exercise.  Doctors get
>> close to zero nutrition training in school.  They are not oriented towards
>> coaching you to do the right things to preserve health while you've got it;
>> they fix problems once they arise.  Their actions are largely controlled by
>> the insurance companies.  Doctors live in mortal fear of malpractice suits
>> and everything they do is intended to make sure they appease the insurance
>> companies so they don't lose their malpractice coverage.  And the rest of
>> what they do is dictated by those other insurance companies, health
>> insurance.  Doctors do what they will be reimbursed for.
>>
>> SO
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the best advice is to follow your doctor's advice--OR get a new
>>> doctor!
>>>          Dave
>>> I always liked the doctor I had years ago. His first question was ALWAYS
>>> "Are you still smoking 4 packs of Pall Malls a day?" I would answer
>> "Yes",
>>> and he would mutter "a$$hole", amd then go on with the yearly exam. Best
>>> doctor I ever had, and he now, has retired.
>>>
>>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 3:11 PM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
>>>
>>>> This one is a bit of a downer. Sorry. Spring needs to get here so we
>> can
>>> do
>>>> something tractor.
>>>> :-)
>>>> My heart is not my biggest worry. A pulmonologist recently told me that
>>> he
>>>> wanted to make all of his patients live to be 100... Now that is scary
>> to
>>>> me. Much of my family has generally had fairly long life spans going
>> way
>>>> back, discounting those that were killed by stuff like lightning or a
>>>> couple that drowned in the Ohio River at Evansville IN.
>>>> My main worry is that my somewhat recent family tree is a veritable
>>>> fountain of Alzheimer's and dementia.
>>>> Both of my parents suffered from Alzheimer's in their later years. My
>>>> father was the lucky one of the two. He died of congestive heart
>> failure
>>>> after only a few bad years of it. My mother on the other hand had it so
>>> bad
>>>> and so long (10+ years) that I say that she rode the Alzheimer's train
>>> all
>>>> of the way to the end and then crashed through the stop bumpers and
>>> smashed
>>>> into the station... She remained in decent physical health until she
>>> could
>>>> no longer remember how to breath or pump blood. My father had 3 sisters
>>> and
>>>> all three died of long drawn out Alzheimer's (his only brother died a
>>>> little younger from a bad heart). My maternal grandfather had
>> Alzheimer's
>>>> as well but like my father, died of heart problems after  a few years.
>>> His
>>>> grandmother spent her last days committed to a mental institution from
>>>> dementia.
>>>> I only have one sibling, a sister who is 3 years older than I am. She
>> has
>>>> just reached the point that they can not leave her alone in the
>> house...
>>>> So far I have dodged that bullet (other than long term CRS and a
>> tendency
>>>> to ramble). I'm not sure why.  I just keep checking the grounds...  :-)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Francis Robinson
>>>> aka "farmer"
>>>> Central Indiana USA
>>>> robinson46176 at gmail.com
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