[AT] Welding Advice

Dan Glass dglass at numail.org
Sun Feb 22 08:03:46 PST 2015


When I took lipitor I also felt like I have been beaten with a ball peen 
hammer.  I called the doctor and they said they never heard of that. But 
I never hurt so much in my life.   Lipitor did make my cholesterol drop, 
but what does that mean?  It turned out it meant nothing.  I read an 
article about a village in Sicily where everyones cholesterol was over 
1000 and the average person there lived to be over 100 years old. 
Doctors here used to say you would be dead if your cholesterol was that 
high.   The AMA has recently published articles saying cholesterol 
doesn't mean much.
On 2/22/2015 10:34 AM, Jim Thomson wrote:
> I have been on satins since my late 30's after my Dad died. His cardiologist
> wanted to check me out and found my cholesterol numbers were high. I went on
> a very strict diet, lost weight and exercised. My numbers went up anyway. I
> went on a low does of Lipitor and my numbers went to normal. They have been
> this way for 18 years. When switching jobs our insurance changed and the
> Lipitor was not covered. Tired many other satins and felt like some one
> worked me over with a ball peen hammer.  I went back to a generic Lipitor
> and all is well. I have had long discussions about the benefits vs problems
> with satins. The benefits far out weigh the problems. The data is there to
> support the claims. I also just found out that I have Type II diabetes last
> March. I was not overweight, don't smoke or drink. My doctor told me that it
> was not your lifestyle, but the combination of genetics and exposure to
> certain viruses that caused this. I am controlling the diabetes with diet
> very well. My PhD friend has found an article that has found a very strong
> correlation with the randomness of cancer and heart disease. The summary of
> the article stated that 2/3 of all cancer is due to random causes. If I can
> get him to send me the link I will post it.
>
> Jim Thomson
> Rehoboth, MA 02769
>   
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of jtchall at nc.rr.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 8:42 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Welding Advice
>
> Been diabetic for 21 years. I went from no meds to insulin over night. Part
> of the standard treatment for diabetes is blood pressure and cholesterol
> meds, whether you need them or not. My blood pressure runs low to start
> with, on meds it was dangerously low. Doc finally pulled me off of them--15
> years ago. Now the docs all want me on cholesterol meds. Its 3 on 1--me vs.
> my regular DR, heart DR, and endocrinologist. I'm still resisting until they
>
> show me results where my cholesterol is too high, then we will talk. The one
>
> thing me and the DRs agree on is I need to exercise. Being a workaholic
> doesn't count they tell me. Unfortunately I'm too lazy to exercise, but I do
>
> agree with them I should do it. I don't smoke, drink, and am not overweight.
>
> About the only thing they can fuss at me about is to  consume less caffeine,
>
> exercise more, and eat more vegetables.
>
> The only recommendation I have for folks dealing with health issues is to
> make sure you and your DR mesh well. Between me and my dad I've encountered
> tons of Drs. If the 2 of you aren't seeing eye to eye, find another Dr.
> That's
> not to say be bullheaded and look for one that doesn't give a flip about you
>
> outside of getting paid, find one that genuinely cares about your opinion
> and well being. Fortunately we are in a town big enough to have tons of DRs
> to choose from, most are affiliated with Duke Hospital.
>
> If it doesn't warm up today like the weather guys say it is supposed to,
> I'll get a shovel and start removing the ice skating rink in front of my
> garage---that should count for exercise!
>
> John Hall
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Hazewinkel
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 11:42 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Welding Advice
>
> OK, I'll jump on here as I am old enough to have to take a pill or two to
> stay alive (or so I'm told).  I'm a firm believer that genetics has more to
> do with it than anything else.  My grandparents died in their early 60's due
>
> to heart failure, they didn't smoke and weren't overweight, just bad
> genetics.  Fast forward 40 years, I have two brothers they are "normal", I
> work out three days a week, don't carry any excess weight and feel great, my
>
> blood work says I live the life of a sedentary obese person, and I should be
>
> dead in my early 60's just like my grandparents.
>
> So it's pills for me, after going through a few, I am now on Vascepa, which
> is a clinical strength fish oil.  Best damn thing I ever took, no side
> effects, and no more joint pain.  You might want to look into it.  BTW, I'm
> only 45 and hope I can hang on for a few more years.
>
> Enjoy, Joe
>
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