[AT] Need help troubleshooting engine/compressor

Sun Aug 16 22:20:45 PDT 2015

Just a note, I had to stop during the repair of the Sullair to help put 
out a fire my City born & Bred neighbors created.  They set fire to 2 
brush piles then went to church.  The wind got up fron the South and the 
fire was heading across a pasture that was cut about 2 weeks ago for 
hay. Another 200 yds and it would have hit the cedar lined fencerow and 
my 3 ft tall prairie hay that needs to be cut tomorrow and the 3 acres 
of hay left in windrows on the ground.  Not to mention my semi loaded 
with hay on the field.......     Fire dept came and put it out and 
thought I had been baling again!!   Neighbor seems to think I sorta 
overreacted.....    The idiot has been fined 2 times before for burning 
in a burn ban.    They guy that cuts the hay in that field had left his 
hydro swing and Bat wing mower setting on the North and South side of 
that brush pile they set fire to..   If It had gone a little further, 
the Hydro swing had about 35gallons of oil to add to things...

The idiots they let move out here!!!!

Cecil in OKla

On 8/16/2015 10:24 PM, Cecil R Bearden wrote:
> Bo:
> Thanks, that is what I ended up doing..    I loosened up the spring on
> that Sullicon control some...  It was adjusted to the max.   Then I
> backed off the Pressure regulator screw.  Then I also lengthened the rod
> from the governor to the Sullicon.  The 6cyl carb I installed had the
> float hinged at the front end of the engine.  The intake manifold carb
> flange was angled to allow the carb to be horizontal when installed in a
> vehicle.  In the compressor it causes the front end to be low.  The new
> carb was flooding some due to this.    I set the float level down and
> also backed off the auto choke.  I also advanced the timing a lot.  It
> finally would start and run  enough to build up minimum pressure and cut
> back...    I ran the compressor at open discharge and it ran for a while
> then loaded up and died.   It would not start.  I checked and had no
> spark at the coil.   Installed the old coil and it ran. The new BWD $30
> coil lasted about 10 minutes...  I adjusted the compressor to run at
> 90-100 psi when blowing through a 1/2 inch hose barb.  I have a claw
> foot hose barb end that connects to a 4 ft length of pipe with a valve
> that I blow off the equipment with.  I think it will improve with
> running, I still have to make an adapter to fit the air horn of the carb...
>
> Now if I could just get the Leroi running.  I got a 60cc syringe and put
> 60cc of SiliKroil in each cylinder.    It may not do much for the
> valves, but it will loosen any rings that are stuck...
>
> Thanks for your advice...
>
> Cecil in OKla
>
>
>
> On 8/16/2015 4:55 PM, Bo Hinch wrote:
>> Cecil, I would disconnect the INLET VALVE CONTROL  ROD ( see top left
>> corner of photo ) and manually shut off air intake . The compressor should
>> NOT build up any air pressure with that valve shut off ( unless it is
>> sucking air downstream of the valve) which it shouldn`t . That way you can
>> safely run the motor without disconnecting the compressor from the motor
>> OR, you could back off the PRESSURE REGULATOR SCREW ( unscrew it ) to
>> maintain little to NO air pressure . The REGULATOR is shown mounted next to
>> the SULLICON Control .I would count the turns I unscrewed it so I could put
>> it back at same setting .
>>
>>>    Bo Hinch in s/w louisiana
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Cecil R Bearden <crbearden at copper.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I started to rebuild the sullair carb this morning.  Carb kit was the
>>>> wrong one of course.  Could not tell until I got it open so was not
>>>> returnable...  Another $40 down the drain..  I thought I would use the
>>>> needle & seat and make a gasket.  When trying to install one of the main
>>>> jets, it had a spring loaded metering rod in it.  Spring hung on the
>>>> threads of the housing and then went "ping", a very very bad sound.  I
>>>> heard it when it hit the hitch of the compressor. Trying to get that one
>>>> together is out of the question now.    I looked up a carb that was used
>>>> on the 6cyl and smaller Ford engines.  Oreilly parts had it at the
>>>> warehouse and I could get it in 2 hours for only $249  It had a similar
>>>> linkage and I could always use the main jet from the old one if I needed
>>>> to cut down the gas consumption.   Finally about 8pm this evening I had
>>>> the new one installed and only needed to build an adapter for the air
>>>> cleaner connection......
>>>>
>>>> Tried to start it and it was just the same as it was 4 days and $400
>>>> ago.............   Maybe tomorrow I will remove the compressor and try
>>>> to start the engine and just let it run for a couple of hours.........
>>>>
>>>> There are 2 complete motors running in Tulsa with the computer
>>>> connections for $650 for both...   They sound really good, I should have
>>>> made the trip today....  It will still take me a week to R&R one of these.
>>>>
>>>> Just another day in paradise!!
>>>>
>>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/15/2015 6:07 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>>>>> I haven't done it on my current truck but on most of my pickups and my
>>>>> tractors
>>>>> I've been known to add a quart of Dexron ATF or a quart of diesel fuel
>>>> and
>>>>> let the
>>>>> engine idle for a few minutes before dumping the oil for an oil change.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it ever damaged anything I don't know it and it sure helps was the
>>>> crud
>>>>> out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Steve W.
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 4:00 AM
>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Need help troubleshooting engine/compressor
>>>>>
>>>>> Cecil R Bearden wrote:
>>>>>> OK I will try.   Got anything for stuck lifters??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cecil in OKla
>>>>> Marvel Mystery oil.
>>>>>
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