[AT] Disk Plow or One-Way Plow

Mon Sep 15 01:18:51 PDT 2014

Apart from other interesting stuff, Cecil wrote:

"It is so nice to have work...  It is even nicer to be able to work......."

Well said Cecil; I like it.  It's so good I'm going to repeat it - often! :-)

JV

> Well,  when I unhooked the Allis disk to try the Roto tiller, the gang
> that had the loose bearing now had a broken axle.  It looks to be a 1
> inch round axle.  Not so bad to repair when I get a round Tuit.  Sure
> wish it was working now....    I got the 7030 Allis resurrected from the
> dead and tried to hook up the roto tiller.  The tiller is Category 2 but
> is not wide enough for the lift arms on the 7030.  So, I thought I would
> ook up the 4-16 semi-mount and try it...   The 7030 has cast iron
> stabilizer blocks.  One side of the blocks is missing, so if the plow
> swivels right when I raise it, I shear off 3 bolt heads that hold the
> draw bar bracket or just really screw up good lift arms.   This tractor
> has not been used much on 3  pt implements. The drawbar has a 1/2 in
> plate added to level up the wear in the swinging drawbar
> bracket...!!!!!!!!  I went down to try and hook up to a 4-16 drag
> plow...   It had 3 flats, but the tires were not rotted.  On the way
> back to the shop, I remembered why I parked the Allis 4 years ago.  The
> seat must have bottomed out 25 times in 200 yards of travel over some
> slightly rough ground.   I bought a seat for it, but it ended up in the
> New Holland when the Air ride crapped out.  The Allis has a seat that
> bolts to the back of the cab.  It hinges just like every other D@#$%^&
> Allis tractor since 1925.  I got a kink in my back as a child on a WD
> Allis, and this brought back those bad memories....   Hy-Capacity has a
> bracket for $60 to mount a conventional seat on the Allis cab.  I think
> it is a bit high, but working in that close quarters is a real pain for
> me, and $60 for something that will fit the first time is not too
> bad....  I will order the bracket tomorrow morning...
>
> So, I parked the 7030and put the Belarus under the shade tree ( my
> outdoor shop) After removing the seat and the access panel in the cab
> floor, I found the broken cable that operates the 3 point.   I also
> marveled at how simple the 3 pt. lift is on the Belarus.  A double
> acting cylinder with both hyd connections at the rod end is the cylinder
> for the lift.  To rebuild it, you pull the pins and rebuild it.  No
> removing the top deck, etc.  The draft and position is controlled by
> linkage connected to the top link and the lift arms.  The trouble spot
> is the linkage needs to be lubricated.  They provided a small access
> panel in the large one to do this....  The cable was not the easiest
> thing to change, but  if I did not have size 2xl hands and a bad leg and
> hands that go numb when trying to work on close things, it would have
> been a 20 minute chore.  It was a 2 Dr. Pepper and a sandwich job.  I
> could work faster if I did not have to put never seize or Kroil on every
> bolt I put back also....  I also recovered the seat cushions and
> lubricated the seat slides and tried to straighten the seat bracket and
> replace a broken bolt..The seat and the bracket were installed in
> Milwaukee, and are the weak points.  Anything installed in the USA on a
> Belarus is a problem point.    The Russians build things to last....
>
> It was sundown when I finished and then had to check the cows, so I did
> not get to hook up the tiller to the Belarus.  The lift now works, so if
> is doesn't rain, I'll give it a go tomorrow.   I hope to get this 30
> acres sowed before the snow flies....
>
> It is so nice to have work...  It is even nicer to be able to work.......
>
> Cecil n OKla
>
>
> On 9/10/2014 7:53 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>> Cecil, try these folks.
>> http://mower-blades.agrisupply.com/search#w=disc%20harrow%20bearings&asug=disc%20
>> I'm about 50 miles from one of their stores and 100 miles from another
>> one.
>> They are good folks.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Cecil R Bearden
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:44 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Disk Plow or One-Way Plow
>>
>> I need to find  a bearing for that disk.  There is one on the inside of
>> the right gang that is loose now.    They look like they are mounted in
>> rubber.  I looked at one on Allis Chalmers.com from a post a few years
>> back and they were talking about $200 ea when you could find them...
>> I can get 1in hex bearings with a 2.44 OD the originals are 3in OD.  It
>> would not be that hard to insert into a sleeve with 3in OD or encase in
>> polyurethane 3in OD....    That rubber mounting may be the reason they
>> are still working after 60 years.  Then again it could be the double
>> bearing....
>>
>> I am going to take the  3 tandem disks and the one offset that I have
>> here and build a 12 ft heavy Tandem disk.   I may even double up the
>> bearings...  Then I can really travel with the 2470 Case....!!!!
>>
>> Cecil
>>
>>
>> On 9/10/2014 12:30 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>> Ouch, Cecil you hurt my feelings.  I've been looking for one of those
>>> 9'
>>> Snap Coupler disc for
>>> years.  Of course it would cost too much to get it to NC from OK so I
>>> guess
>>> I'll forgive you and
>>> your dad for butchering it up.  grins.  Actually that 9 foot disc is
>>> too
>>> big
>>> for what I need.  I really
>>> would like to have the 6 1/2 foot version of it.
>>>
>>> Glad you got some rain.  If you do run the Roto-tiller aren't you at
>>> some
>>> risk of causing
>>> what soil moisture you have to evaporate?  Just my opinion but I'd run
>>> it
>>> at
>>> the last minute
>>> before I sowed the field.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Cecil R Bearden
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 7:51 AM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Disk Plow or One-Way Plow
>>>
>>> Well, Saturday morning, woke up to rain!!!!!!!   Weatherman forecast
>>> 1/2
>>> inch and we received a little over 2 inches.  There was not very much
>>> runoff thank goodness.
>>>     While checking on my cattle, I found an old 9ft. Allis Disk that
>>> was
>>> once a snap coupler that Dad & I modified to 3 point.  We never had
>>> much
>>> luck with it on our smaller tractors, and it was cast off in the
>>> grass.   It had been there over 25 years.   Yesterday I hooked it up to
>>> the NH TS110 and found 2 JD wheel weights to put on each side.  It was
>>> about 16 inch disks, with sealed bearings.  The adjustable link from
>>> the
>>> top link to the rear of the disk stripped out after about 4 hours
>>> running, but I welded a nut on it and went back to work.    We used to
>>> pull this disk with our 36hp diesel, now pulling it with a 110 hp was
>>> really hilarious.   However, I double disked it, and it really did a
>>> decent job down about 4 inches.  It did better than that One-Way I
>>> bought.   ( Wife was sure to point that out, OUCH!!)  I now have the
>>> wheat field disked up waiting on additional moisture.   Ran may not
>>> happen until Friday here, so I may try something else.   Since we got
>>> the moisture and it soaked in, I was thinking about the 8 ft
>>> Roto-Tiller.  It would get the soil ready to sow, and then next year I
>>> could run the Big Ox V-Plow.   I definitely will get the 2470 Case
>>> ready
>>> by next year....
>>>
>>> Cecil in OKla
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