[AT] Disk Plow or One-Way Plow

[Herb Metz]

Cecil,
We never had need for a sub-soiler, so I have no knowledge from experience. 
Would running a sub-soiler every few feet be a feasible method?  May take 
considerable time, but If memory serves, this field was only thirty acres?
OR, if you have a solution that is feasible only if ground is wet you may 
not have any choice but to hope for rain?
If going too fast may have been a factor in the breaking of three discs, 
could they come back and go a bit slower this next time?  One or two tries 
does not satisfy their moral commitment.
You have many construction acquaintances, what is possibility of 
borrowing/leasing a heavy duty disc from one of them?
Herb


-----Original Message----- 
From: Cecil R Bearden
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 10:58 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Disk Plow or One-Way Plow
They came out and ran a crust buster/harrow over it to no good, so they
hooked onto my 16 ft offset disk.  Three disks broke on the disk and a
bearing failed within 2 hours.
Cecil in OKla



On 9/5/2014 8:47 AM, charlie hill wrote:
> Maybe you need to put some pressure on the drilling company that put
> the fluid out there to help you.  They obviously knew something they
> didn't tell you.>
> It sounds like what you need is a LOT of rain but I know you don't get 
> much.
> Charlie
>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cecil R Bearden
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 7:42 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Disk Plow or One-Way Plow
> Weight box is only 54 inches long!!!!!!!
> I have a contractor friend who has a big Rome plow that would do what I
> need.   However he usually gets about $100/acre to run it. The real
> problem is the lack of moisture.  This land was chiseled and immediately
> after (30minutes) pulling out of the field, it started raining.  We got
> 4 inches of rain on it.  There was no run off.  We have had nearly
> another 12 inches of rain this summer. Some did run off.  When  you dig
> or try to plow this ground there is nothing but dry dirt.  I dug a ditch
> with the trackhoe 3 days ago, and it was dry as a bone 3 ft down.
> I remember when we used to harvest wheat, we wou8ld disk or plow
> immediately behind the combine or the ground would be dry as a bone and
> we would have to wait until a rain to work the ground. This drilling
> fluid and the packing by their trucks is something that I will never
> allow again.  I would think the fluids would prevent the moisture from
> evaporating.
> I am at a loss as to what to do that I can afford...
> Cecil in OKla
>
>
> On 9/5/2014 4:38 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>> You could try parking the front end of one of
>> your other tractors in the weight box.  That might do the trick.
>> Just messing with you.  Good luck.  Do you happen to know
>> anyone with a dozer and a root rake?  Probably something you
>> don't often see in OK.
>> Charlie
>>

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cecil R Bearden
>> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 11:54 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Disk Plow or One-Way Plow
>> I put an elevator counterweight on it and It still needs more.  It cuts
>> about 3 inches.  I broke the original bolts on the left hitch draw pin
>> bracket.   I quit it was dark anyhow.  I spent about an hour trying to
>> get it adjusted. Spent the entire day getting it ready to run.  Tail
>> wheel was rusted in bearings.   Bearings in main shaft seem to be ok.
>> Had to move draw pin on right side up to accommodate the bigger lift
>> arms of the NH..  I figured I can adjust the lift arms to make the
>> difference.  Makes a lot of difference on the length of the top link..
>>      It is certainly a great way to turn fuel into dust!!!!
>> Cecil in OKla
>>
>>
>> On 9/4/2014 7:30 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>>> Cecil, how much weight do you think you'll have to
>>> put on it to get it in the ground?
>>> Charlie
>>>

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Cecil R Bearden
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 8:03 AM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Disk Plow or One-Way Plow
>>> I found a mounted One-way plow yesterday.  I also found the original
>>> brochures, I think!!  It is a P8 or F8 plow.
>>> A couple of links to the brochures are below.
>>>
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Brochure-P-8-INDEPENDENT-Mounted-ONE-WAY-DISC-PLOW-/141390973797?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20eb8f0b65
>>> http://www.ntractorclub.com/forums/manuals/messages/5264.html
>>>
>>> I just hope the bearings hold together for 30 acres.   With my 100 hp NH
>>> tractor, I would bet that I can plow more than 2 1/2 acres per hour.  It
>>> will be slow, but if it does the job, that is all that matters...
>>>
>>> Cecil in OKla