[AT] OT - Types of gravel

[charlie hill]

Dean I completely agree with you as far as the derivation of the term "hog 
fuel".
Now a days, at least around here, it encompasses and trash wood no matter 
how it
is chopped or ground up.  Yeah I agree that it wouldn't work as well without 
high cedar
content.  In our weather conditions the native woods we have would be a 
termite filled mush
in no time and worthless for the purpose you use the cedar for. 
Interesting to know the
source of and history of the Norwegian hogge or hogde. Thanks

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dean VP
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 1:00 PM
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Charlie,

>From what I have read the Term "Hog Fuel" probably got its name from a 
>nickname of the grinding
machine used to create it, a "hammer hog." The word for chopped (hacked) in 
Norwegian is hogge (hogde
past tense); chopped wood has been hogde. Hogde fuel likely morphed into 
hogged fuel invented machine
that was used to make it. I'm sure that the content varies by area and is 
composed of whatever
inexpensive scrap wood product is available locally.  I'm not sure that 
non-cedar based Hog Fuel would
be appropriate as I would think it would deteriorate too fast and not have 
the plant killing
properties that cedar has.  All I know is it completely transformed the 
paddock for my wife's horses
from a muddy mess to a nice dry and somewhat soft and cushioned surface for 
the horses hoofs. She no
longer had to worry about hoof rot. WA state is a big logging and wood 
products area, even though all
the first growth is gone. The nice thing about wood is it is a renewable 
resource.  I would hate to
guess how many area of trees are harvested here every year and then 
transplanted to be harvested again
many years out.  Cedar is a very plentiful tree here.

Dean VP
Snohomish, WA

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charlie hill
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Dean,  I suspect your "hog fuel" is high in cedar content just because you
have a lot of cedar
in your area that is used by the timber industry.  Hog fuel here is chipped
up hard wood and pine
and it consists of bark, small limbs and other dirty chips that can't be
used to make paper.
Therefore it is burned for fuel to power the boiler at the paper mill or at
our local wood energy plant.
Based on that I'm thinking "hog fuel" is just a generic name for waste chips
and wood by products that
generally get burned.  It might be high in cedar depending on it's location.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dean VP
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:09 PM
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Mike,

We use a thing called "Hog Fuel" in our wet paddocks out here in the very
wet NW part of WA.  Don't
know if that is appropriate for your local area.  Hog Fuel is quite course
ground up Cedar wood and
Bark used for fuel.  When applied fairly thick, several inches deep, it keep
the horses hoofs dry and
is also easy on their hoofs.  It used to be fairly inexpensive hear because
it was not allowed to be
used for burning due to pollution issues. Now that it is allowed to be
burned as a fuel it has become
much more expensive.  Courser than the  ground cedar bark for planting beds.
Cedar bark and Hog fuel
is so acidic nothing grows in it so it is a good ground cover.   May not
even be available in your
area.

Dean VP
Snohomish, WA

The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing at the right
time, but also to leave
unsaid  the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

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Mike
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 2:14 PM
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Subject: [AT] OT - Types of gravel

Hi All, we have a horse paddock that is about 75' x 75'. It is currently
filled with a mixture of manure and clay about a foot deep. I'm going to
scrape it clean, and want to replace it with some sort of gravel. The
choices seem endless depending who I talk to. What I'm looking for is a
type of mixture that has smooth rather than crushed stone, with a lot of
fines to help lock it together. Now the exact product I'm looking for
many not exist, but any help getting me close would be greatly
appreciated. Just a further note, our paddock has a slight grade to it,
maybe 2-1/2 to 3 Ft in 75 ft.

Thanks for any help,
Mike M

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