[AT] The terror strikes again. - Studebaker speed response

R Fink Sr rfinksr at verizon.net
Tue Jun 3 06:09:54 PDT 2014


   Chuck and all others i know all about the studebakers drove them all
   the 50s and 60s. Had one a 55 president 3 on tree with over drive.
   Could turn 60 + in 1st then start shifting till i run out numbers i
   think it was clocked at 150. Done same in a 55 packard wagon Had many
   friends that would not ride with me, Never had an accident till late
   70s.now 50 is good for me and i don,t even have a cell phone.
   R Fink
   PA


   On 06/03/14, Stephen Offiler<soffiler at gmail.com> wrote:

   Yeah, that'll work, Charlie! And if you want to find out what modern
   tires
   and suspension can do, try your test on a curvy road!
   On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 8:36 AM, charlie hill
   <[1]charliehill at embarqmail.com>
   wrote:
   > If you want to find out what traction control can do, get ahold of
   > someone's late model Corvette, stand up on the gas pedal and
   > hang on.
   >
   > Charlie
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: Stephen Offiler
   > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 8:23 AM
   > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
   > Subject: Re: [AT] The terror strikes again. - Studebaker speed
   response
   >
   > I just bought a used '13 VW Jetta Sportwagen and it's my first car
   with
   > traction control. I got it in early February of this year and I had
   ample
   > opportunity to drive it on snow and ice covered roads while the car
   was
   > still unfamiliar to me. We had some days in February that were so
   cold
   > (Ralph kind of cold, negative degrees Fahrenheit) that salt cannot
   melt the
   > ice, so I had a few rides to work that were literally on ice-COVERED
   roads,
   > not just a phrase.
   >
   > I was AMAZED at what the traction and stability control can do. I
   clearly
   > wasn't out there driving like a moron, but we have lots of hills and
   curves
   > where I live, and it felt like I was driving an all-wheel-drive
   vehicle.
   >
   > Tires, suspension, and electronic aids today are orders of magnitude
   beyond
   > those bias-ply tires on that Studebaker. Sorry Charlie V but it's
   just a
   > fact.
   >
   > SO
   >
   >
   >
   > On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Henry Miller <[2]hank at millerfarm.com>
   wrote:
   >
   > > On June 2, 2014 10:13:59 PM CDT, Mike <[3]meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
   > > >Anti-lock brakes will definitely stop you faster, and along with
   > > >stability control, makes for a safer vehicle. Traction control is
   a
   > > >whole different story. My wife needs to turns hers off to avoid
   getting
   > > >
   > > >stuck in deep snow, it won't allow any wheels spin, and you lose
   > > >momentum.
   > > >
   > > >Mike M
   > > >
   > > >On 6/2/2014 10:52 PM, Charlie V wrote:
   > > >> Just saying, Steve, bias ply tires and drum breaks were not that
   bad.
   > > > I
   > > >> sure put on a lot of (luckily) accident free miles with that
   type
   > > >equipment
   > > >> as did many other folks. I am not convinced the anti lock
   breaking
   > > >systems
   > > >> are all they are cracked up to be either.
   > > >>
   > > >> Grant: My '47 Studebaker champion with overdrive would touch a
   > > >dollar bill
   > > >> on a good day but it needed a good two miles of road and zero
   > > >headwind to
   > > >> creep it up there. Tested it out the first day I got it on the
   road
   > > >at 16
   > > >> years old. (Me for the 16. the car was just slightly younger.)
   > > >>
   > > >> Charlie V.
   > > >>
   > > >>
   > > >> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Stephen Offiler
   <[4]soffiler at gmail.com>
   > > >wrote:
   > > >>
   > > >>>> On 6/2/2014 10:20 AM, Grant Brians wrote:
   > > >>>>> Ralph, that is why I got all of my need for speed out when I
   was
   > > >>> younger
   > > >>>> in my Studebaker cars.... 125mph between the farm fields where
   > > >there were
   > > >>>> no police, houses or cross traffic and a three mile
   straightaway is
   > > >>>> enjoyable in a Gran Turismo Hawk.
   > > >>>>
   > > >>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Ralph Goff
   <[5]alfg at sasktel.net> wrote:
   > > >>>
   > > >>>> Grant, at least you would not have been talking or texting on
   a
   > > >cell
   > > >>>> phone while driving that speed in those times.
   > > >>>
   > > >>> Very true, Ralph! But on the downside, he was doing it on
   skinny
   > > >bias-ply
   > > >>> tires and drum brakes!
   > > >>>
   > > >>> SO
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   > > It very much depends on which car you have. For a long time I
   thought
   > > traction control was great and why would anyone not want it all the
   time.
   > > Then I went looking for a car for my wife and found most of them as
   bad
   > as
   > > you say.
   > >
   > > I endorse traction control on my vw, and anything with a similar
   system.
   > I
   > > have no use for it elsewhere.
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