[Farmall] What tractor is this ??

Roberto Rivero rj.rivero at gmail.com
Sun Jan 5 20:22:58 PST 2014


Sure when i beguin reading  the list will know that,  because i shall have
some question.

Now I am reading and ejoying the last book Red Tractors from 1958  to 2013.

Nice Book,  there are answer about the designing, of tractors that is nice
to have the oportunity to know, and see fotos of the ideas.

I desagree in one point,    Is  stated that Magnum tractor saved the
company,   really Magnun is a very good tractor, (My persotal opinion  72XX
and 89xx are the best),  if we had that tractor in mid seventies nobody
could with us.     But  i should say that 50% Magnum and 50% the Axial Flow
combines saved  the company.

At least is my feeling.    Here in S Am. Axial Flow is strong selling.
Tractors  not at all.


2014/1/6 <jtchall at nc.rr.com>

> Been a long time since I read it. I must admit some of it is boring. It
> goes
> into great details as a means of preserving history before it is lost for
> good. You get in depth looks into the people that actually ran the company.
> You also find out how concessions to Union contracts let Deere and
> Caterpillar squash IH many years later. There is a bit of U.S. history in
> there, taught from a tractor collectors view, not what is taught in the
> school system. It is well worth reading to be able to understand how the
> world agricultural leader managed to collapse. Other wise, you might be
> misled into thinking IH made bad products in the 1970's which in turn
> resulted in their downfall. Even if it takes you a while to translate, I
> really think you would enjoy it. Hey, if you get stuck on something, you
> got
> the list to post questions to!
>
> John Hall
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roberto Rivero
> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 8:56 PM
> To: Farmall/IHC mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Farmall] What tractor is this ??
>
> Yes A Corporate Tragedy is a book i must read,  may be my next book is
> that,   i became lazy and reading such a book in english some times is hard
> task,   there are many especialized bocabulary that make mi use dictionary
> constantly    and then i go too slow.
>
> But i am curius about that book and why things went wrong with the IHC.
>
>
>
>
> 2014/1/5 <jtchall at nc.rr.com>
>
> > Got to digging, after my last post, in my copy of 150 years of IHC. IH
> > started in 1905 with plants in foreign countries. Sweden was first, then
> > Germany in 1909. After that plants were built in in France and
> > Lubertzy,Russia, no dates listed for these. It's on page 31 if anyone
> > cares
> > to read farther. A bit of research shows the government busted up their
> > monopoly between 1907 and 1911, maybe foreign expansion of manufacturing
> > plants was a way around this?
> >
> > Also, Russia was one of McCormick's major markets in the early 1880's,
> > according to an excerpt from A Corporate Tragedy (A must read book for
> all
> > IH enthusiast)
> >
> > John Hall
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roberto Rivero
> > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 8:39 PM
> > To: Farmall/IHC mailing list
> > Subject: [Farmall] What tractor is this ??
> >
> > Found this tractor in fotos of a town in Russia in the Taiga area.
> >
> >
> >
> https://plus.google.com/photos/110825972920494392454/albums/5332528626707272513?banner=pwa&authkey=CILr68-Py_762QE
> >
> > In the fotos donot pay atention to the 666 tractor, my question is the
> > tractor on the pedestal very similar to a F12 (Though) but has a mark on
> > it
> > ( ztz ).
> >
> > Any body knew of a copy of IHC made in Russia in that time.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > --
> > Ing. Civil Roberto Rivero
> >
> > Cel.00598 99620035
> > Tel. 00 598 4375 6165
> >
> > Parque Del plata   Calle 24 esq. E
> >
> > Montevideo Uruguay South Am.
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>
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Ing. Civil Roberto Rivero

Cel.00598 99620035
Tel. 00 598 4375 6165

Parque Del plata   Calle 24 esq. E

Montevideo Uruguay South Am.



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