[AT] Semi-off topic Zero Turn mowers

Cecil R Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Mon Apr 28 03:38:59 PDT 2014


I don't know if Briggs still has that crappy solid state ignition that 
will not work when the flywheel gets a little surface rust on it, but I 
will not buy anything with  a late model Briggs engine on it.   I may 
have told this story before, but I lost a storage van that had over $30K 
of parts in it because my fire fighting tank trailer had a Briggs engine 
with solid state ignition on it.  As far as I am concerned they are not 
even good enough to be a boat anchor.
I have bought some pumps with the Chinese Honda copies on them, and I 
have installed the Harbor freight engines on my sprayers. They work fine 
and st \art with the first or second pull on the rope.  I also have one 
on a portable air compressor.    I should probably better describe that 
Briggs engine, it was solid state ignition, but was not overhead valve.  
It was on a Pacer Pump.   I got a letter from Briggs stating that they 
had a worldwide network of servicing dealers, and sent me a copy of the 
internet list of OKC dealers.  I had replaced both the ignition 
components and the carburetor.   When the flywheel got a little surface 
rust on it, it would cause the engine to misfire.  It would run at about 
half speed with the choke closed.  I thought it was the fuel line 
plugged.  Replaced the carb with a new one, and then it ran the same.  I 
replaced the coil armature, and same problem.  I sanded the flywheel & 
magnets, and it ran fine.  2 days later, when I needed it, it would not 
run at all.  The flywheel had rusted overnight with the morning dew.  
This was a great design to be on a Pacer pump that was intended to be 
used to transfer liquid fertilizer.   I only pumped water with it.

Guess I was lucky I was not trying to fight a fire on the house.......

Cecil in OKla


On 4/27/2014 2:44 PM, charlie hill wrote:
> Yeah my engine preference would be Kawasaki or Honda with B&S just
> based on reputation and parts availability.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: R Fink Sr
> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 1:31 PM
> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> Subject: Re: [AT] Semi-off topic Zero Turn mowers
>
>     I don,t know why but she loves to cut grass and has a brother the same
>     way. I think them two would spend all day on a mower cutting.
>     And I just saw the comment on kohler engines and agree they are as bad
>     as onan to buy parts for.
>     R Fink
>     PA
>
>
>     On 04/27/14, charlie hill<charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Yep that's a good plan if you can make it work!
>     Charlie
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: R Fink Sr
>     Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 8:57 AM
>     To: [1]at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>     Subject: Re: [AT] Semi-off topic Zero Turn mowers
>     Charlie I have solved the lawn problem we mow 2 1/2 to 3 A. I just keep
>     old JD 214 running good and wife does all mowing.
>     R Fink
>     PA
>     On 04/27/14, charlie hill[2]charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>     Thanks Mike. Yeah I've seen the ZTR's with ATV tires on them before.
>     It seems to help a lot but can tend to tear up the turf too.
>     Charlie
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Mike
>     Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 12:02 AM
>     To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>     Subject: Re: [AT] Semi-off topic Zero Turn mowers
>     Charlie, I'm in the same boat you are in. I mow about 3 acres and do so
>     on a 1995ish Simplicity Sovereign with a 48" deck. It's a good old
>     mower, but I practically live on the thing in the summer. I've looked
>     at
>     the Bad Boy mowers at TSC, and they look like they are built really
>     well, but as someone else mentioned, no local dealer support. I looked
>     at the Scag TigerCat, but can't justify 8K for mowing my lawn. I am
>     leaning heavily toward the John Deere Z series, local support and
>     people
>     love them. A friend of ours has an older Z series, and readily admits
>     that he uses it like a brush hog. The only thing he's needed to change
>     is the belt. We used to live in a more hilly area and lawn care guys
>     that would mow slopes put ATV tires on the their machines, no more
>     sliding around.
>     Mike M
>     On 4/26/2014 11:14 PM, Bill Bruer wrote:
>     > Charlie, I've been running a Hustler FasTrak for 6 years. The FasTrak
>     was
>     > their "homeowner" line when mine was new. The main difference between
>     it
>     > and the pro mowers at that time was that the FasTrak has an
>     integrated
>     > pump
>     > and motor unit for each rear wheel while the pro series had a central
>     pump
>     > with separate motors. I don't know what is in their current lineup.
>     >
>     > Mine is only a 44" deck because that is what fits best around and
>     between
>     > the obstacles in my yard. I got the optional Honda v-twin engine (18
>     HP)
>     > though I've heard nothing but good about the standard Kawasaki
>     engines. I
>     > have had absolutely no trouble with the mower. I do my own
>     maintenance.
>     > The mower has right at 400 hours on it now. I regularly mow about 3
>     acres
>     > and a few times have used it in some fairly tough stuff that it
>     probably
>     > wasn't designed for. It tops out about 7 MPH but that's as fast as I
>     care
>     > to mow.
>     >
>     > I see mostly Hustlers on the commercial trailers around here. A
>     friend
>     > who
>     > runs a lawn care business in south Florida swears by Exmark. Both
>     brands
>     > are very similar in design and build; I've even heard some people
>     claim
>     > they
>     > are made by the same company (they aren't). When I was buying the
>     local
>     > Exmark dealer was just too high on price. I expect my mower to
>     outlast
>     > me.
>     >
>     > Bill Bruer
>     > Murfreesboro, TN
>     > [1][3]bill_bru at bellsouth.net
>     >
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: charlie hill
>     > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 1:45 PM
>     > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>     > Subject: [AT] Semi-off topic Zero Turn mowers
>     >
>     > I'd like to hear peoples opinions of different
>     > brands of ZTR mowers. I'm not interested in
>     > particular brands or what is cool or popular.
>     > I'm looking for the most bang for the money
>     > in terms price, reliability and serviceability.
>     > Cheaper is better but price isn't everything.
>     > I don't want a small machine and I don't want a
>     > huge one. I do place some importance on speed.
>     >
>     > Thanks
>     >
>     > Charlie
>     >
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