[AT] Semi-off topic Zero Turn mowers

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Sun Apr 27 07:58:45 PDT 2014





Thanks Cecil.  The Hustlers are good machines, no doubt.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Cecil R Bearden
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 10:15 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Semi-off topic Zero Turn mowers

Many years ago I bought a Hustler with a 72in deck from a state surplus
auction.   It had been used on a golf course and had a lot of hours on
it.  It also was stuck.  I broke the pistons free with penetrating oil
and ran it for 2 years by adding a quart of oil every time I used it.
My Dad decided to mow one day and ran it for 4 hours and I had to
overhaul the Kohler engine.   Nearly $400 in parts.  Mowing around our
trees and junk on 2 acres of yard took nearly 3 hours before with a 36in
cut riding mower.  The Hustler took only an hour.  My wife loved it and
mowed with it all the time.    I even mowed some lots for the bank.   I
still have it but I need to replace the seals on the engine as the
ridiculous dipstick arrangement on the Kohler engine broke off and I
never could get the oil level right.  I over filled it and it blew the
seals.   Kohler wanted nearly $100 for the dipstick & tube assembly.   I
love Kohler engines and have many of them, but if you ever need parts
that cannot be bought aftermarket, you have to make a trip to the bank
first.

The Hustler I had used a variable piston pump that was actually 2 pumps
built together and separate levers to control the swash plate.  There
were separate wheel motors.  I never could stop the wheels.  The state &
municipalities use these to push snow and anything else you can hook up
to the PTO and the lift arms.

I would try to find a used Hustler.   I have a couple of Hustler mowers
that need engines transplanted, but never got the time to work on them.

Cecil in OKla




On 4/27/2014 7:57 AM, R Fink Sr wrote:
>     Charlie I have solved the lawn problem we mow 2 1/2 to 3 A. I just 
> keep
>     old JD 214 running good and wife does all mowing.
>     R Fink
>     PA
>
>
>     On 04/27/14, charlie hill<charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Thanks Mike. Yeah I've seen the ZTR's with ATV tires on them before.
>     It seems to help a lot but can tend to tear up the turf too.
>     Charlie
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Mike
>     Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 12:02 AM
>     To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>     Subject: Re: [AT] Semi-off topic Zero Turn mowers
>     Charlie, I'm in the same boat you are in. I mow about 3 acres and do 
> so
>     on a 1995ish Simplicity Sovereign with a 48" deck. It's a good old
>     mower, but I practically live on the thing in the summer. I've looked
>     at
>     the Bad Boy mowers at TSC, and they look like they are built really
>     well, but as someone else mentioned, no local dealer support. I looked
>     at the Scag TigerCat, but can't justify 8K for mowing my lawn. I am
>     leaning heavily toward the John Deere Z series, local support and
>     people
>     love them. A friend of ours has an older Z series, and readily admits
>     that he uses it like a brush hog. The only thing he's needed to change
>     is the belt. We used to live in a more hilly area and lawn care guys
>     that would mow slopes put ATV tires on the their machines, no more
>     sliding around.
>     Mike M
>     On 4/26/2014 11:14 PM, Bill Bruer wrote:
>     > Charlie, I've been running a Hustler FasTrak for 6 years. The 
> FasTrak
>     was
>     > their "homeowner" line when mine was new. The main difference 
> between
>     it
>     > and the pro mowers at that time was that the FasTrak has an
>     integrated
>     > pump
>     > and motor unit for each rear wheel while the pro series had a 
> central
>     pump
>     > with separate motors. I don't know what is in their current lineup.
>     >
>     > Mine is only a 44" deck because that is what fits best around and
>     between
>     > the obstacles in my yard. I got the optional Honda v-twin engine (18
>     HP)
>     > though I've heard nothing but good about the standard Kawasaki
>     engines. I
>     > have had absolutely no trouble with the mower. I do my own
>     maintenance.
>     > The mower has right at 400 hours on it now. I regularly mow about 3
>     acres
>     > and a few times have used it in some fairly tough stuff that it
>     probably
>     > wasn't designed for. It tops out about 7 MPH but that's as fast as I
>     care
>     > to mow.
>     >
>     > I see mostly Hustlers on the commercial trailers around here. A
>     friend
>     > who
>     > runs a lawn care business in south Florida swears by Exmark. Both
>     brands
>     > are very similar in design and build; I've even heard some people
>     claim
>     > they
>     > are made by the same company (they aren't). When I was buying the
>     local
>     > Exmark dealer was just too high on price. I expect my mower to
>     outlast
>     > me.
>     >
>     > Bill Bruer
>     > Murfreesboro, TN
>     > [1]bill_bru at bellsouth.net
>     >
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: charlie hill
>     > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 1:45 PM
>     > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>     > Subject: [AT] Semi-off topic Zero Turn mowers
>     >
>     > I'd like to hear peoples opinions of different
>     > brands of ZTR mowers. I'm not interested in
>     > particular brands or what is cool or popular.
>     > I'm looking for the most bang for the money
>     > in terms price, reliability and serviceability.
>     > Cheaper is better but price isn't everything.
>     > I don't want a small machine and I don't want a
>     > huge one. I do place some importance on speed.
>     >
>     > Thanks
>     >
>     > Charlie
>     >
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