[AT] Jim Erdle Auction

[charlie hill]

Steve, a  friend of mine who was a firefighter and also the safety
guy at a local wood products facility used a similar rig as that but
on a much larger scale.  They had a problem with wood chip piles, stored
on the ground outside, getting wet and taking heat that resulted in 
smoldering
fires.  They would push a big pipe into the pile with heavy equipment and 
flow water
through it.  They also used dozers to push the pile down.

In the case of the hay fire I was talking about,  by the time it was 
discovered and
fire fighters got there it was too hot to get close enough to fight it. 
Flames were
going 50 to 100 feet into the air and anything within 50 feet or so would 
melt or catch
fire.  About all they could do was stand off and fog it with water to cool 
it down around the edges.
At the time there was no aerial platform truck available to put water on top 
of the blaze.
The remnants of the metal roof on the shed kept them from being able to arch 
water over onto
the top of the fire.  It was an inferno for sure.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Steve W.
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:28 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Jim Erdle Auction

charlie hill wrote:
> Ralph these guys didn't normally store hay under that shed but just got in 
> a
> jam for space that year.  It cost them.  My guess is that pile of hay was
> 20' x 40'
> x 15' or so high in square bales.  Of course, since a hay fire like that
> starts in the
> middle of the stack there is no real way to put it out unless you have a 
> big
> piece of
> equipment to tear down the stack and that is dangerous.
>
> I enjoyed that video.  This is my favorite time of year on the farm.  The
> work is coming
> to and end.  Things are getting cleaned up and some money is in the bank 
> and
> you can
> start to think about next years crop.  All is good.
>
> I don't know a thing about Canola, what is an average bushel per acre 
> yield
> for the stuff?
> They have just started growing some Canola here recently.  A friend sent 
> me
> a pint of honey
> from his hives the other day and told me the farms around his hives were
> planted in Canola this
> spring so it is Canola honey.  It's nice honey.  Smooth and not overly
> sweet.
>
> Charlie
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Ralph Goff
> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:27 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Jim Erdle Auction
>
> On 9/18/2013 9:02 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>> A couple of brothers I know are very successful farmers.  A few years
>> ago they got in a bind with their hay and stored some under an open
>> sided combine shed
>> other than to keep the shop cool.  it was one of the more impressive 
>> fires
>> I've ever seen.
>>
>> Charlie
> I've seen a few bale fires here. Once a big stack or row of round bales
> gets burning about all they can do is try to make a break in the row of
> bales and hope the fire does not jump. There is a lot of energy going up
> in smoke when bales burn.
> I keep bales in the barn loft but no machinery in there.
>
> Ralph in Sask.
>

Something that I put together for hay fires works really well, and it
was not real expensive to build.

First you need a BRASS 2.5" female coupler to match the fire hose
threads your dept. uses. (I get mine off the old antique lines we toss out.)
Next visit your local auto parts store and get a section of straight
exhaust tubing that your coupler fits tight on.(depending on the coupler
that can be 2.5 or 2.75 inch pipe)
Braze the coupler to the pipe. On the other end you need a point, I made
ours from an old tire balancer cone. But you could easily fish mouth the
tube and weld it up.

Now make two collars that will slide on the pipe. Weld a couple pipes
and braces so the handles are stiff. Then weld a stop on so the handle
is able to rotate but still push the point in. Set up your drill press
and drill 1/4" holes around and up the pipe.

You now have a high flow piercing nozzle for hay fires!

-- 
Steve W.
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