[AT] FEL Question

[Claude]

Let's not forget, there is probably a good reason it would no roll back (overload).

Claude

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> On Nov 19, 2013, at 8:12 AM, "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> 
> To late to try it now but I wonder
> what would have happened if he
> had let the bottom of the bucket rest on the trailer
> bed before he tried to roll it back.  My guess
> is that would have taken enough weight off
> the system to allow it to tilt.
> 
> Charlie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Dick Day
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 10:34 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] FEL Question
> 
> Really? The main left worked enough to raise it above the trailer floor by a
> few inches.
> 
> Interesting.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Len Rugen" <rugenl at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 9:23 PM
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Subject: Re: [AT] FEL Question
> 
>> Specs say 2200 lbs lift at the pivot pins.  I'd guess a hydraulic pressure
>> relief valve was reaching it's limit and not letting it tilt, even though
>> the main lift would still work?  The clamp on forks push the load further
>> out, guessing 16" or more, that is putting the center of gravity of that
>> 1500 out far enough that it's too much for the roll back.  I'd also guess
>> that a real fork in place of the bucket would lift a little more (and cost
>> a lot more).
>> 
>> I've got a similar sized tractor and loader and have had lots of times
>> when the roll back wouldn't move something, but I could lower the lift
>> while rolling back to cheat the roll back, then lift with the main arms.
>> Granted, I know I was past the limits and the pressure relief valves have
>> saved my equipment from damage.  I've still managed to break 2 hoses on
>> the roll back circuit :-)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Monday, November 18, 2013 8:59 PM, Dick Day <ddss at telebeep.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Greetings.
>> 
>> My son recently bought one of the new LS  tractors, I believe it's 37hp.
>> As
>> I understand it, LS is the one who is now making the Boomers for New
>> Holland.
>> 
>> The tractor is really, really nice (it's not nice to covet thy son's
>> tractors)
>> 
>> Here is a link to the model he has.
>> http://legacytractors.com/buy-new/ls/tractors/xr-series/ls-xr3037hc
>> 
>> After a month or so, he had a palletized delivery come to his home. When
>> it
>> arrived, he put his forks on the bucket and proceeded to unload it from
>> the
>> semi that delivered it. We are estimating that it weighed about 1400 lbs.
>> It was then he discovered that he had a hard time getting the loader to
>> curl
>> back. He gave it more and more throttle but it just would not tilt back.
>> Luckily, he was able to lower it to the ground and then move it off the
>> road.
>> 
>> I realize that using forks extends the weight way beyond the pivot point,
>> but he still should have been able tilt it back.
>> 
>> He contacted the dealer. Since this is a brand new model, the dealership
>> had
>> not really had much chance to work with it, other than prepping it for my
>> son.  He told them what happened and they agreed that something is not
>> right
>> so they contacted LS. LS swears that this is by design. They said that
>> this
>> was done because of customer feedback.  Really?  I'm sure there are
>> applications where a lot of downward thrust might be handy, but I am not
>> having any luck thinking of one.
>> 
>> His forks are not the skid loader type, they clamp onto the bucket.  I
>> have
>> a pair like them and have never had a problem.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Dick
>> 
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