[AT] garden question; potatoes

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Fri Jun 21 12:18:38 PDT 2013


Pretty much Richard.

I don't consider hybrid seed non-organic because plant varieties naturally
cross pollinate anyway.  If you don't believe it plant a row of bell peppers
alternated with hot peppers.  I promise you, you'll have HOT bell peppers.
I think what the Organic folks would worry about is plants that are hybrid
by means of gene splicing rather than through cross pollination.  For the
most part I think they are worried about nothing but there is always the
possibility that something totally un-natural gets "spliced in" so I guess
that is what bothers them.  Pretty much ignorance of how it was done I 
think.
I don't mean they are ignorant.  I mean they are suspicious of what might 
have
been done and not disclosed.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Richard Fink Sr
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 3:45 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] garden question; potatoes

I have what may be a real dumb question. In organic farming how is it
organic if using a hybrid seed. Or one that has been made to be better[
witch means to me screwed with]  Charlie ain,t that what is to fix any
problem throw money at it????????
R Fink
PA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jtchall at nc.rr.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 5:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] garden question; potatoes


> The lunatics are the county southeast of here, the liberal nut jobs are
> southwest and we are the blithering idiots at the top of the "Triangle"
> with
> the huge corporate tax revenues who have proven you can throw money at
> problems and not fix anything!
>
> Back to the organic, I don't know what she wanted with it but assuming it
> really mattered, I didn't want any part of the liability. She may have
> been
> using it for mulch on certified organic vegetables. There is a rather
> large
> market here for fresh local grown produce (not necessarily organic).  Got
> to
> respect the folks doing it because they are generally doing it on a very
> small, labor intensive scale---the new breed of small full-time farmers.
> They do produce a much better product, equivalent to a personal garden in
> my
> opinion. And, their cash is green when they buy a load of straw for mulch!
>
> I do get inquiries for straw for strange uses though. One guy bought some
> and was using it to locally grow some sort of farm-raised seafood
> (remember
> I am 3 hours from the ocean).  This was actually a small scale commercial
> business.
>
> Another fellow came and measured the bale size and checked the weight. He
> wanted to use it for insulating an exterior wall in a garage he was
> converting to an office. Thank goodness the baler had been acting up and
> the
> length was varying a couple inches. I can see it now, he hauls away 50
> bales
> and brings back 15 to swap for something a little shorter so he can
> squeeze
> it in the wall--I'm not running a lumber yard!
>
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: charlie hill
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:54 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] garden question; potatoes
>
> You do realize that you live in the lunatic capital county of NC and
> possibly the S/E don't you?
> I would have told her it was organic.  Get your chemistry text out.  There
> are two kinds of
> things in the world, organic and inorganic.  Inorganic is minerals.  The
> rest is organic.
>
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: jtchall at nc.rr.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:39 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] garden question; potatoes
>
> Speaking of genetically modified, got to love dealing with the general
> public. I run an online ad to sell wheat straw most of the year. I had a
> lady inquire this spring if I had organic wheat straw. I told her no but
> if
> she were to search around on the net there was a farm in NC that raised
> organic wheat a couple years ago. Then she emailed back wanting to know if
> I
> "at least" had straw that was not genetically modified. I replied that GMO
> wheat does not exist outside of research labs and test fields. Hybrid
> crops
> are not the same as GMO. I went on tell her about all the wonderful
> chemical
> fertilizer, insecticide, and herbicide I treated my wheat with. That was
> enough to get her to go annoy someone else.
>
> John Hall
>
>
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