[AT] garden question; potatoes

Al Jones farmallsupera at earthlink.net
Fri Jun 21 07:14:46 PDT 2013


I agree Charlie.  I have always said that the plant doesn't care where the N, P, or K comes from as long as it has it.  I like the fact there is a market for organic, and locally grown (which to me makes more sense than trying to grow organic)so that people can make a choice on what they eat, and small farmers can make a living.

Al 

-----Original Message-----
>From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>Sent: Jun 21, 2013 7:18 AM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>Subject: Re: [AT] garden question; potatoes
>
>Yes I know you are right about the three counties John but couldn't help
>blaming it all on you.  grins.   At least you are up on top of the heap.
>
>You are right, there are legitimate uses for organic and those folks do hard
>but in my opinion the whole thing is bogus.    The only part of the organic
>movement that makes any sense to me is not using harmful chemical
>pesticides.  As far as being organic, I go back to what I said before.
>Fertilizer out of a bag is just as organic as fertilizer out of the horse 
>pasture.
>Of course there is inorganic material in fertilizer too but generally it's 
>organic.
>
>
>We have fish farms down here.  Some are within a mile or two of creeks and 
>rivers
>where large fishing trawlers are docked.   I guess there is a market for 
>both
>natural and farm grown.   I prefer mine out of the creek, river or ocean.
>
>Charlie
>
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: jtchall at nc.rr.com
>Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 6:51 AM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>Subject: Re: [AT] garden question; potatoes
>
>The lunatics are the county southeast of here, the liberal nut jobs are
>southwest and we are the blithering idiots at the top of the "Triangle" with
>the huge corporate tax revenues who have proven you can throw money at
>problems and not fix anything!
>
>Back to the organic, I don't know what she wanted with it but assuming it
>really mattered, I didn't want any part of the liability. She may have been
>using it for mulch on certified organic vegetables. There is a rather large
>market here for fresh local grown produce (not necessarily organic).  Got to
>respect the folks doing it because they are generally doing it on a very
>small, labor intensive scale---the new breed of small full-time farmers.
>They do produce a much better product, equivalent to a personal garden in my
>opinion. And, their cash is green when they buy a load of straw for mulch!
>
>I do get inquiries for straw for strange uses though. One guy bought some
>and was using it to locally grow some sort of farm-raised seafood (remember
>I am 3 hours from the ocean).  This was actually a small scale commercial
>business.
>
>Another fellow came and measured the bale size and checked the weight. He
>wanted to use it for insulating an exterior wall in a garage he was
>converting to an office. Thank goodness the baler had been acting up and the
>length was varying a couple inches. I can see it now, he hauls away 50 bales
>and brings back 15 to swap for something a little shorter so he can squeeze
>it in the wall--I'm not running a lumber yard!
>
>John
>
>
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: charlie hill
>Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:54 PM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>Subject: Re: [AT] garden question; potatoes
>
>You do realize that you live in the lunatic capital county of NC and
>possibly the S/E don't you?
>I would have told her it was organic.  Get your chemistry text out.  There
>are two kinds of
>things in the world, organic and inorganic.  Inorganic is minerals.  The
>rest is organic.
>
>
>Charlie
>
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: jtchall at nc.rr.com
>Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:39 PM
>To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>Subject: Re: [AT] garden question; potatoes
>
>Speaking of genetically modified, got to love dealing with the general
>public. I run an online ad to sell wheat straw most of the year. I had a
>lady inquire this spring if I had organic wheat straw. I told her no but if
>she were to search around on the net there was a farm in NC that raised
>organic wheat a couple years ago. Then she emailed back wanting to know if I
>"at least" had straw that was not genetically modified. I replied that GMO
>wheat does not exist outside of research labs and test fields. Hybrid crops
>are not the same as GMO. I went on tell her about all the wonderful chemical
>fertilizer, insecticide, and herbicide I treated my wheat with. That was
>enough to get her to go annoy someone else.
>
>John Hall
>
>
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