[AT] junk

[charlie hill]

Interesting Ron.  I don't think wheat is all that profitable here.  We plant 
soft
wheat not hard red(I think that is right)  like up in the wheat belt and 
primarily
because it's a cover crop that they can get some income from.  There is also 
a lot
of Milo planted here now and it fits in the rotation similar to beans I 
guess.  Of course
this are plants a lot of cotton now too.

I've always had a fascination with aerial crop spraying.  The older I get 
the more I wish
I had tried to get into it.  There was a guy about 10 miles from our farm 
but as a kid it
just never occurred to me that I could go and talk to him and might have a 
chance to get in it.
That guy sprayed until he was in his 70's or later I guess and died in his 
plane but it wasn't from
the crash.  He had a heart attack that killed him and the crash came as a 
result.

Charlie



-----Original Message----- 
From: Ron Cook
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:19 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] junk

Charlie,
     No, actually we try to plant corn in mid to late April nowadays.
It used to be early May 30 years ago.  Now we follow immediately with
the soybeans and try to be done with them by mid May.  Soybean planting
used to start the first of June.  New hybrids, chemicals, and modern
farm equipment have changed everything.  We can have the first frost as
early as 15 Sept. with a killing frost ending the growing season around
the 10th of Oct.  Our soybean harvest is Oct and Nov with the corn at
the same time.  The new hybrids dry down in the field and harvest can
sometimes start in the corn ahead of soybean harvest.  Then when the
soybeans are ready, we just switch to them and go back to the corn later.
     I always refused to seed soybeans with the airplane.  The results
were usually dismal, and it was done in desperation.  It seemed to me to
be ripe for non-payment of my services.  The farmer always survives with
some sort of government program if he plays it right.  The fellow making
things happen for the farmer is just SOL!
     There is seeding cover crops in the fall by air and it is getting
more common.  Rye is usually the crop of choice for its weed control
ability.  I am not in a wheat growing area, but it can be successfully
sown by air.

Ron Cook
Salix, IA
On 7/20/2013 11:45 AM, charlie hill wrote:
> Ron we are about a month late for planting soybeans here now.  Generally 
> the
> cut off
> planting date for Crop Insurance coverage is about June 20.   I wouldn't 
> try
> it now particularly
> this year because it feels to me like we are going to have an early fall.
> The air here feels
> like mid August already.  Soybean seed are so comparatively large that I
> can't imagine air seeding
> being very cost effective.  I've heard of it being done here but all I've
> actually seen done is
> broadcast seeding by driving through the wheat.
>
> The funny difference between the Southeast and your area is that we plant
> corn early in the spring.
> Sometimes as early as mid March and they will be picking corn here in
> probably 3 weeks or so.
> Soybeans are always planted later, in May or early June.  I believe you 
> guys
> do the opposite don't you?
> Sometimes we are picking Soybeans in late October and all through 
> November.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Cook
> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 10:57 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] junk
>
> Rye and wheat work well by air.  Helicopter might be cost prohibitive.
> Soybeans should work if the ground is damp long enough and the beans are
> in shade.  In order to make soybean planting by air work here in western
> Iowa you have to get them covered with a little soil somehow.  This is
> spring planting soybeans.  We can't do that double crop thing.
> Ron Cook
> Salix, IA
> On 7/20/2013 6:43 AM, jtchall at nc.rr.com wrote:
>> Sounds like you guys are having a tough time with the rain. I talked to a
>> guy who's brother works for a Deere dealer near the NC/SC border. One of
>> their customers is a real big farm. They are still trying to get wheat 
>> out
>> due to the rain. Running 2 combines with duals and still getting stuck.
>> It's
>> so bad they keep a big tractor on hand just to pull them out. The wheat 
>> is
>> too good to abandon and accept an insurance payment. It's going to take a
>> lot of tillage to get the ruts out of the field.
>>
>> How did the seeding by airplane work? I wouldn't think a soybean could
>> sprout and survive like that. Dad has told me before about a neighbor who
>> used a helicopter once to seed some wheat in standing corn. Must not have
>> worked to well as I don't think he did it but once.
>>
>> John
>>
>

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