[AT] Ford 4000 Quitting Afer Running a While

[charlie hill]

Cecil, the problem with that approach is that sometimes it doesn't solve the 
problem.
I replaced coil, condenser, points, plugs, wires, cap and rotor on my 
tractor once in one of
those I'M GOING TO FIX THIS DAMNED THING fits only to find out 150 bucks 
later that someone
had replaced the wire from the coil to the points with a piece of solid 
copper romex house wire
and the wire had broken inside the vinyl covering.  It would run fine until 
heat and vibration would
open the break up and it would spit, sputter and quit, cool off and run 
again.    Took five minutes and
a piece of wire I had laying around to fix it when I finally diagnosed the 
real problem.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Cecil R Bearden
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 4:29 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Ford 4000 Quitting Afer Running a While

I have to agree with Dave on this one. After spending $1200, 4 days, 500
miles and 2 days driving all over OKlahoma to get a swather driveline
fixed that  was supposed to have nothing wrong with it.,  I would just
replace the parts and be done with it.  I could have had another 250
bales rolled up if the $#%^ thing had worked to start with....

Cecil in OKla

On 7/14/2013 2:42 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:
> Yup, You could take 27 hours checking out ALL the necessary parts, or you 
> could spend $100.00 and an hour of labor and get the same results. If your 
> time is only worth $3-$4 dollars an hour, GO FOR IT!
> Dave
> PS, For $100, I wouldn't give a darn what fixed it as long as it was 
> cutting the grass once more!
>
>
> On Jul 14, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Tom wrote:
>
>> The traditional garage money-making way?
>> Then you're still left not knowing which fixed the problem...
>> To me, it sounds like the coil, coils can simulate a fuel problem then
>> when cool work again; points are either good or bad; condensers are the
>> most maligned component in a coil setup, but minimal labour to fit with
>> points:- get replaced due to belts & braces (suspenders?) approaches.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>>
>>> I'm suggesting a shotgun approach--points, coil and condenser. Mine and
>>> dad's experience has been coils go out pretty quickly, as in seconds not
>>> minutes, leading me to think it could be the condenser, but I'd bet on 
>>> the
>>> coil first. Considering the tractor is not at your house, it appears to 
>>> be a
>>> bit of inconvenience to work on it, that’s why I'd change it all and be 
>>> done
>>> with it. If all that doesn't solve the problem, I'd look into vapor 
>>> locking.
>>>
>>> John Hall
>>>
>>>
>>>
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