[AT] Water Lines

Fri Jan 4 20:01:07 PST 2013

I have had good luck with the white nylon fittings that are used for 
sprayers with the black poly pipe.   If you have to warm the pipe to get 
it to fit the barb, do not warm it with a torch close up.  I did this a 
few years back, and the pipe would break in about 2 days.  I warmed some 
by sticking it in the exhaust pipe of the truck while it was running, 
and had no problems.   It was below freezing when we were doing 
this....  If it is that cold now, I don't work that much.!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cecil in OKla

On 1/4/2013 9:41 PM, Mike Meulenberg wrote:
> I wasn't aware that they made brass fittings, so that is what I based by recommendation of plastic fittings on. I'm sure you'll agree that plastics have come a long way since the 70's and 80's. My thought would be to try to get as few fittings as possible by ordering a 500 or 1000 ft roll and only have two fittings, one at the meter and one at the house.
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> Mike M
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> Cecil,
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> No, Shark Bites can not be buried. Here is a link to the Ford brand
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> http://www.fordmeterbox.com/products/productview.php?catSec=J
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> Gary
> Renton, WA
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> From: Cecil R Bearden <crbearden at copper.net>
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> Are those Ford fittings what we call Shark Bite fittings here??
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> Cecil in OKla
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> On 1/4/2013 7:49 PM, k7jdj at aol.com wrote:
>> As I said in a previous post I would not use plastic fittings with poly pipe.
> All of the fittings I used in the 70's in my own installation failed in the
> 90's. One was under the concrete in my shop. The pipe was buried with sand and
> I still had fitting failures and yes they were schedule 40. In my business I
> have repaired/replaced 100 psi pipe and plastic fittings. They have been good
> for my business. They seem to last about 10 to 20 years. I agree that galvanized
> steel fittings are not good so I use brass. If I can convince the customer, I
> use compression fittings (some plumbers call them Ford fittings, which is a
> brand name). That is what all of the water districts use in this area. Most of
> the water districts in my area (Western Washington) require 200 psi 1 inch Iron
> Pipe Size (IPS). Glued pipe is discouraged and in some cases not allowed.
>> Gary
>> Renton, WA
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>> From: Mike Meulenberg <meulenms at gmx.com>
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>> Sent: Fri, Jan 4, 2013 1:31 pm
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>> Was just at Lowes and they have 100' x 1" for 54.00 it's the 160 psi variety,
> I
>> suspect you may be able to special order a 500' coil. They had larger sized as
>> well. I agree with Cecil, I would use plastic fitting with Marine grade
> clamps,
>> the steel ones rust and corrode. I would choose poly over PVC, its really
> tough
>> stuff and not brittle like PVC.
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>> Mike M
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>> There is a Tractor Supply not far from Al that has 1" 100 psi x 300' roll
>> for $85.00.
>> I suspect someone around his place has it even cheaper than that.
>>
>> Charlie
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cecil R Bearden
>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 9:05 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [AT] Water Lines
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>> Lowe's has a lot of it at a reasonable price. I used to buy a lot of
>> pipe at Pumpco Supply, I think they also had a store in Tulsa. Locke
>> Supply will give a pretty god discount to the end user. You can also
>> use the 1 inch 200 psi PVC glued joint. I have pulled that pipe in a
>> ripped trench also. I have 3000 ft of pipe 6 ft deep for my heat
>> exchanger here. It is 2 inch 160 psi. The black plastic pipe connects
>> with barbed connections and hose clamps. Contrary to this list opinion,
>> I have had very good success with plastic Hose barbs. The galvanized
>> ones rust. The olastic ones I have used were the same size as schedule
>> 40 PVC. The new PEX pipe that used copper crimp rings is really great.
>> I have used it and had good success. The 1 inch pex uses brass barbs.
>>
>> If I was to build a new heat and air system, I would use a ground source
>> heat pump for my air conditioning and water heating, then an outdoor
>> boiler for heating the house, water, dryer, and stock tank heat.
>>
>> Cecil in OKla
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>> On 1/3/2013 10:58 PM, moscowengnr at yahoo.com wrote:
>>> The posts on water lines were really informative. I am getting ready to
>>> install 500 to 600 feet of water line to connect a new cabin I am building
>>> on back of property where house in front burned down with Oklahoma
>>> wildfires.
>>>
>>> Where can you purchase the rolled plastic pipe that was mentioned in some
>>> of the posts??
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>>> Is this similar to what is used for some gas lines??
>>>
>>> Does it do joints by heating and pressing together?? if so does this work
>>> well?? where do you get tools for this??
>>>
>>> This may be interesting for water lines, but I also want to try some
>>> experimenting with ground heat exchangers for heat and air. Having a long
>>> roll of plastic pipe would help with a few trial projects both in
>>> Oklahoma, and also here in Texas for my shop here.
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>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Dennis
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