[AT] County/City Water Connection: What size meter to use?

Dave Rotigel rotigel at me.com
Wed Jan 2 18:55:49 PST 2013


Doubtful that the root caused the leak. More likely that the leak caused the root!
	Dave

On Jan 2, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Cecil R Bearden wrote:
>   BTW 
> the leak was from a BoisD'Arc tree root growing into the pipe at a joint.
> 
> Cecil in OKla
> 
> On 1/2/2013 7:42 PM, Alan Nadeau wrote:
>> It has been a while since I ran any water lines.  In your case I would go
>> with 1" pipe but a 3/4" meter, the 1" will maintain flow better than the
>> 3/4" will over any distance.  Back when I was involved in such work it was
>> pretty common for chintzy builders to run the cheapest pipe they could buy.
>> At that time I think it was rated for 80 PSI.  I had the pleasure of working
>> the trench when my employer replaced many of those.  The pipe he used then
>> (he was NOT a chintzy builder) was something like 120 or 160 PSI rated.  The
>> 80# junk would puncture if a stone got anywhere near it.  In our stony (VT)
>> soil the only way it would last was if it was bedded in sand.  Nobody did
>> that as it was expensive so the weakest possible pipe got direct buried and
>> as the fill settled any stones in there would crimp/kink the pipe and in 6-7
>> years it would be leaking.  I'm not even sure the 80# is even made now but
>> if it is it should be avoided unless you are in really nice sand.  Go with
>> the heaviest rated pipe you can get.  It will require a little heat to get
>> fittings into it and it is wise to use marine grade hose clamps.  The
>> automotive ones have a carbon steel screw on a stainless band.  When the
>> screw disintegrates the clamping force is lost.  The marine ones are
>> completely stainless steel and while more costly they add only a fraction to
>> the cost of the whole project.
>> 
>> Even with the heavy pipe, if you're working with a dug trench it is wise to
>> try to keep clean fill over the pipe for a couple inches and not drop any
>> big rocks down near the bottom if you can avoid it.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:06 PM
>> Subject: [AT] County/City Water Connection: What size meter to use?
>> 
>> 
>>> WARNING: OFF TOPIC!
>>> 
>>> My wife and I are building a house, and it’s time to put the water meter
>>> down out at the highway.  This is my first experience with “county water,”
>>> as I have always lived in a house on its own well.  I am hoping that the
>>> convenience of not maintaining a pump will be worth it in  the long run.
>>> Plus, we will be living in the town ETJ, and I expect “one of these days”
>>> they will run a municipal sewer line and we’ll have to connect anyway.
>>> 
>>> I have a choice of a meter with a 3/4" hookup, pretty much the standard
>>> deal around here, or a 1” hookup.  The 1” meter is $170 more than the 3/4"
>>> meter, but the highway robbery, uh, I mean “impact fee” is $1600 more for
>>> the 1” meter.  Our house is between 800 and 900 feet from the road and
>>> where the meter will be.  Should I bite the bullet and go for the 1”
>>> connection or will a 3/4" line give acceptable pressure and flow?  My
>>> contractor suggests the 1” meter, and I have had others advise either one
>>> will work.  One even suggested just installing the 3/4" meter but run a 1"
>>> pipe to the house.
>>> 
>>> We won't be doing anything fancy, just water needs for a 3 bedroom, 2.5
>>> bath house.  No lawn irrigation other than filling up a watering can when
>>> I plant marigolds or something.
>>> 
>>> When the meter goes in, I intend to run the line to the house myself.  If
>>> so, I will be using the 424 IH with a middlebuster to dig the trench (if
>>> it will go deep enough) and the Super A with IH Fast Hitch blade to
>>> backfill.....
>>> 
>>> 
>>> thanks,
>>> Al
>>> 
>>> 
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