[AT] County/City Water Connection: What size meter to use?

[Skip Cleveland]

Not so. Roots can find the pipes because they are cool and have condensate 
on them. The roots will
grow until they break the water pipes. It just happened here with the 
neighbor's pine tree and our well.
A stump grinder was used to cut the roots which were as big around as  the 
tree. It's starting to shed
needles and dead limbs like a snow storm now.
Skip
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Rotigel" <rotigel at me.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] County/City Water Connection: What size meter to use?


Doubtful that the root caused the leak. More likely that the leak caused the 
root!
Dave

On Jan 2, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Cecil R Bearden wrote:
>   BTW
> the leak was from a BoisD'Arc tree root growing into the pipe at a joint.
>
> Cecil in OKla
>
> On 1/2/2013 7:42 PM, Alan Nadeau wrote:
>> It has been a while since I ran any water lines.  In your case I would go
>> with 1" pipe but a 3/4" meter, the 1" will maintain flow better than the
>> 3/4" will over any distance.  Back when I was involved in such work it 
>> was
>> pretty common for chintzy builders to run the cheapest pipe they could 
>> buy.
>> At that time I think it was rated for 80 PSI.  I had the pleasure of 
>> working
>> the trench when my employer replaced many of those.  The pipe he used 
>> then
>> (he was NOT a chintzy builder) was something like 120 or 160 PSI rated. 
>> The
>> 80# junk would puncture if a stone got anywhere near it.  In our stony 
>> (VT)
>> soil the only way it would last was if it was bedded in sand.  Nobody did
>> that as it was expensive so the weakest possible pipe got direct buried 
>> and
>> as the fill settled any stones in there would crimp/kink the pipe and in 
>> 6-7
>> years it would be leaking.  I'm not even sure the 80# is even made now 
>> but
>> if it is it should be avoided unless you are in really nice sand.  Go 
>> with
>> the heaviest rated pipe you can get.  It will require a little heat to 
>> get
>> fittings into it and it is wise to use marine grade hose clamps.  The
>> automotive ones have a carbon steel screw on a stainless band.  When the
>> screw disintegrates the clamping force is lost.  The marine ones are
>> completely stainless steel and while more costly they add only a fraction 
>> to
>> the cost of the whole project.
>>
>> Even with the heavy pipe, if you're working with a dug trench it is wise 
>> to
>> try to keep clean fill over the pipe for a couple inches and not drop any
>> big rocks down near the bottom if you can avoid it.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:06 PM
>> Subject: [AT] County/City Water Connection: What size meter to use?
>>
>>
>>> WARNING: OFF TOPIC!
>>>
>>> My wife and I are building a house, and it’s time to put the water meter
>>> down out at the highway.  This is my first experience with “county 
>>> water,”
>>> as I have always lived in a house on its own well.  I am hoping that the
>>> convenience of not maintaining a pump will be worth it in  the long run.
>>> Plus, we will be living in the town ETJ, and I expect “one of these 
>>>  days”
>>> they will run a municipal sewer line and we’ll have to connect anyway.
>>>
>>> I have a choice of a meter with a 3/4" hookup, pretty much the standard
>>> deal around here, or a 1” hookup.  The 1” meter is $170 more than the 
>>> 3/4"
>>> meter, but the highway robbery, uh, I mean “impact fee” is $1600 more 
>>> for
>>> the 1” meter.  Our house is between 800 and 900 feet from the road and
>>> where the meter will be.  Should I bite the bullet and go for the 1”
>>> connection or will a 3/4" line give acceptable pressure and flow?  My
>>> contractor suggests the 1” meter, and I have had others advise either 
>>> one
>>> will work.  One even suggested just installing the 3/4" meter but run a 
>>> 1"
>>> pipe to the house.
>>>
>>> We won't be doing anything fancy, just water needs for a 3 bedroom, 2.5
>>> bath house.  No lawn irrigation other than filling up a watering can 
>>> when
>>> I plant marigolds or something.
>>>
>>> When the meter goes in, I intend to run the line to the house myself. 
>>> If
>>> so, I will be using the 424 IH with a middlebuster to dig the trench (if
>>> it will go deep enough) and the Super A with IH Fast Hitch blade to
>>> backfill.....
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Al
>>>
>>>
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