[AT] Spam> Re: TO-20 Ferguson & roadranger

Cecil R Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Sat Feb 9 16:50:26 PST 2013


Charlie:
I have an 84 Ford L9000 w/ 3406 Cat and 12 spd Spicer.  It tops out at 
about 80mph.  I have an 83 LTL9000 w/ 3406 Cat and RT913, it tips out at 
62, Downhill, with a tailwind!

  I can start out the Spicer in high range with no problem.  I do not 
normally have to use the lower 6 gears.  In fact if I had to have them, 
I would be out of luck as the air shifter control valve got some 
moisture in it and I have not yet unstuck it.

I have to move the roadranger in one of the lower 6 gears to get it 
started Then shift into high range.  I may only have to move 20 ft, but 
it has to start out in those lower range gears.

  I started driving  in an old 12 spd spicer that had the 2spd input, 2 
spd output, and 3 gears in the middle, behind a 238 v-8 detroit.   I 
kept bean cans hung under the airbox oil drains it leaked so much.  It 
ran like a bat out of hell though...

I always wanted a roadranger.  I finally got an RTO 9513 in the old 75 
chevy firetruck I drove back from NJ a few years back.  I could never 
shift it without clashing the gears.  I got the LTL with the roadranger 
and still couldn't shift without grinding, later got a FLC 120 
Freightliner with a 400 Cummins and a RTO9513, I have no idea what it is 
geared at, but it pegs the speedometer and still has more left, but must 
start out in the lower range. I guess I just need to stay with the 
Spicer Trans, but it is pretty hard to do since Rockwell bought them out....

All of my Transmissions have PTO's on both sides.  They leak oil, never 
had one that did not leak.    I have a mixture of 85/140 and Mystic 
Central Lube (00 grease) in them to keep them from leaking out.  Better 
a thick grease than none at all....

Cecil in OKla

On 2/9/2013 7:19 AM, charlie hill wrote:
> Cecil,  you might like those Roadrangers better when you get the right oil
> in them.. grins.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cecil R Bearden
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 7:12 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Spam> Re: TO-20 Ferguson
>
> Charlie:
> I hate to appear ignorant, but I just found that out.  I have 3
> Roadranger transmissions and I use Mystic JT-7 85/140 They are a little
> difficult to shift when cold, but I just thought that was a
> roadranger.   I grew up with a Spicer 12 speed.  Frankly, I still prefer
> them over the 13 spd Roadranger.
>
> Cecil in OKla
>
>
> On 2/9/2013 1:31 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>> Cecil,  unless they have changed since my gear jamming days,  all Fuller
>> Roadranger transmissions in heavy trucks
>> use mineral oil in the transmissions so it should be easy enough to find
>> it
>> through heavy truck suppliers.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cecil R Bearden
>> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 11:19 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: [AT] Spam> Re: TO-20 Ferguson
>>
>> 90 wt Pure Mineral OIl.   It may be hard to find.  I had to buy some
>> from NAPA last year...  API GL-1.  Try an older oil supplier.  The new
>> guys will just give you a dumb look.
>> Here is a couple of links to give you a spec so you can find it.
>>
>> http://www.frontierlubricants.com/Gear_Lubes
>> http://www.starbrite.com/productdetail.cfm?ID=1610&ProductCat=Automotive&ProductSCat=Gear%20Oils&ProductSSCat=90%20WT%20Gear%20Oil%20%20GL-1
>> Cecil in OKla
>>
>>
>> On 2/8/2013 3:35 PM, Andy Glines wrote:
>>>
>>> My brother is working on TO-20 Ferguson and it needs
>>> transmission/hydraulic fluid.  We are not sure what type or oil goes in
>>> this tractor.  What is the correct transmission oil?
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