[AT] Tractor Fluid (OT, only maybe)

Tue Dec 10 10:51:16 PST 2013

Cabin fever I presume?  grins

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Richard Fink Sr
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:21 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor Fluid (OT, only maybe)

Charlie how would you push auto zone every one i have seen was big. And it
would take more than one guy to push it.Maybe if you used your truck also he
he.
R Fink
Snowy PA

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor Fluid (OT, only maybe)

> Oh I agree with you there but the oil you buy from them and the name brand
> parts are
> the same.  I'm not trying to push Autozone.  Just saying that any business
> in your area
> is putting money into the local economy.  I prefer the locally owned but
> don't believe
> in harming myself or my pocket book to avoid a chain store if they have
> what
> I need.
>
> Well we're now only 2 weeks out from Christmas eve so let me be the first
> to
> tell the list Merry Christmas!
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Steve Offiler
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 8:28 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Cc: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor Fluid (OT, only maybe)
>
> Charlie, what I really dislike about AutoZone is their parts tend to be
> lower in quality and at least the stores near me tend toward row after row
> of waxes and various other detailing supplies, with bored high-school kids
> behind the counter; where my local NAPA still gives you premium-price,
> premium quality options on many items not to mention books under the
> counter
> that list old tractors and even power equipment.  I can get a fuel pump
> for
> an 8HP Briggs at NAPA.
>
> SO
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 8, 2013, at 11:39 AM, "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Steve I share your allegiance to local business but
>> remember that the guys that work at Autozone are local too.
>> Only the net profit leaves town.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Stephen Offiler
>> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 8:19 AM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor Fluid (OT, only maybe)
>>
>> Thanks, Charlie.  My local NAPA (where I prefer to do business whenever
>> possible) only carries the 303, which now that I have more facts, seems
>> rather odd.  My area has a fair amount of dairy, and plenty of horses,
>> thus
>> plenty of tractors, and the MultiTrac now appears to be the "right stuff"
>> to meet most mfg specs.  I'm not sure where anybody would want to use the
>> 303.
>>
>> Supposedly my local Autozone has some MultiTrac in stock.  If you can
>> believe that their website *really* knows the stock status
>> store-by-store.
>> My local-ish Tractor Supply doesn't seem to list it but I am checking
>> that
>> again before I bring my business to Autozone...
>>
>> SO
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 7:37 AM, charlie hill
>> <charliehill at embarqmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Steve,   MultiTrac is what I use in my AC tractors.
>>> Around here you can buy that at Tractor Supply, Autozone and a lot
>>> of other places.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Stephen Offiler
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 6:52 AM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor Fluid (OT, only maybe)
>>>
>>> THANKS for all the responses!  I believe I have figured out what
>>> happened:
>>>
>>> If you note in my story, they pulled out some documents from under the
>>> counter and showed me one that indicated it was compatible with Ford
>>> M2C134D.  Here it is:  (scroll down to page 2)
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.warrenoil.com/MSDS-Spec/PDS/Coastal/PDS%20-%20Coastal%20Multitrac%20Tractor%20Fluid.pdf
>>>
>>> But that is NOT the oil they sold me.  The above is a different Coastal
>>> product, called MultiTrac.  What I got was Coastal 303, which, when you
>>> look at the data sheet, is obviously the wrong stuff:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.warrenoil.com/MSDS-Spec/PDS/Coastal/PDS%20-%20Coastal%20303%20Tractor%20Fluid.pdf
>>>
>>> I think it was an honest mistake by the counter guy.  I don't think they
>>> stock the MultiTrac and he mistakenly believed he was showing me the
>>> correct data sheet.
>>>
>>> SO
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Alan Riley <arr44 at suddenlink.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I also have a Ford 1520, a 1987 year model, 2wd, 9x3 transmission.
>>>> When
>>> I
>>>> changed
>>>> it's hydraulic oil and filter the last time, I was still able to get
>>>> the
>>>> Ford 134 oil and the
>>>> filter at the local NH dealer.  That has been several years back though
>>>> and
>>>> the nearest
>>>> NH dealer is now 65 miles away.
>>>>
>>>> I don't recall for certain the revision number on the 134 oil I used
>>>> but
>>> I
>>>> think it may
>>>> have been D.  Maybe I should have stocked up on the oil when I had the
>>>> chance.
>>>>
>>>> Alan Riley
>>>> Deville, LA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Stephen Offiler
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 7:10 PM
>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>> Subject: [AT] Tractor Fluid (OT, only maybe)
>>>>
>>>> I've got a 1991 Ford 1520, a Japanese-built 23HP diesel 4x4 hydrostatic
>>>> from approx 1991, just before Ford sold to New Holland.  A few weeks
>>>> ago
>>> I
>>>> did a 1000-hr major maintenance including hydraulic fluid change.  I've
>>>> got
>>>> the original service manual, which calls for "Ford 134" fluid.  The
>>>> only
>>>> other reference in the manual is to Ford part numbers 1GM-134C (1 gal)
>>> and
>>>> 5GM-134C (5 gal).  Searching around the net, I concluded this stuff
>>>> must
>>>> be
>>>> Ford M2C134x fluid where the x is like a revision, starting with A
>>>> which
>>>> apparently was used in the 8N era... hence, this really isn't all that
>>>> OT
>>>> after all.  Looks like they were up to rev C in the early 1990's based
>>>> on
>>>> what is called out in my manual, and it also looks like the modern
>>>> standard
>>>> is up to D now.  If I got any of that wrong PLEASE jump in.
>>>>
>>>> I ended up purchasing Coastal 303 Tractor Fluid, which I was a bit
>>>> leery
>>>> about, until the sales guy pulled out a multi-page document from behind
>>>> the
>>>> counter that listed a wealth of detail on Coastal 303, including
>>>> compatibility with the Ford M2C134D spec.  OK then, sold.
>>>>
>>>> The problem I am having now is that the fluid seems too viscous.  As
>>>> the
>>>> cold weather arrived, I immediately noticed that the loader lifted
>>>> slowly
>>>> and the bucket roll was almost ridiculously slow.  Not long after that,
>>> it
>>>> literally blew the gasket off the hydrostatic filter.  My first clue
>>>> was
>>>> copious amounts of fluid pouring from the filter area, and once I
>>>> removed
>>>> it, I observed the gasket was out of place.  I tucked it back in,
>>>> tightened
>>>> the filter up real good, and it was OK for another couple weeks.  Just
>>>> today, same thing, it's pouring out the filter gasket again.  I am
>>>> concluding that the fluid is too thick, the flow is too slow, building
>>>> pressure on the return side (filter side), and that's what is blowing
>>>> the
>>>> gasket.
>>>>
>>>> If I got all this right, that means Coastal 303 is NOT so very
>>>> equivalent
>>>> to Ford M2C134D after all.  Does anybody have any knowledge of these
>>>> fluids?  What do I really need to be shopping for?  (I don't know where
>>> or
>>>> IF I could even find genuine Ford fluid any more)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>> Steve O.
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