[AT] Waay OT

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Fri Sep 14 14:15:44 PDT 2012 

Thanks Ivan.   Hopefully I don't have to worry with it.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ivan
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 3:32 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Waay OT

  Search the internet before you clip wires .   I tranplanted a 97 Buick
driveline into a Itaska Phasar and ran into this sort of thing . True
,you clip the wires but on the buick you have too wire a cerain size
resistor into the circuit to fool the computer . And there is the body
computer to deal with also , if it goes south this wont work .But there
is a small circuit that can be aded to feed the computer a square wave
signal to unlock the injectors and get around the problems .  Hate this
newer stuff!            Ivan

Ivan  On 9/14/2012 7:07 AM, charlie hill wrote:
> Cecil,  I enjoy the conveniences and they come in handy at times but to a
> large degree I agree with you, particularly about
> the devices designed to protect me from myself.  One thing that really 
> makes
> me mad is the distorted passenger side mirrors.
> It makes it impossible to look in the mirror and tell how close you are to
> something if you are backing up and I don't see where it
> helps a bit in traffic.  A small wide angle spot mirror would be ok but
> having the whole thing distorted creates more danger than it
> helps prevent.  I notice that some of the Ford pickups have a two piece
> right side mirror, convex on the bottom and regular on the
> top but I can't find one of those for my GMC as a factory option or in the
> after market.
>
> When my old pickup was new I actually took it to a glass shop and told him
> to break the convex mirror out and replace it with a
> real mirror but for some reason I haven't done that to the 06 I have now.
>
> As far as the anti-theft device you mentioned.  The mechanics in the small
> independent shops here defeat those things all the time
> for folks they know.  Apparently all you have to do is clip the wires 
> going
> to and from the device in the switch and connect the clipped ends 
> together.
> The first time that failed on our Buick I bought new keys but next time it
> happens I'll disable it.
>
> Charlie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cecil R Bearden
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:14 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Waay OT
>
> How did we ever  manage without all these little in-conveniences for the
> last 50 years.?
> If my vehicle has A/C that works I am happy.  If it also has power
> steering then I am elated.  Automatic trans, and I get sorta goofy with
> happiness.   Power mirrors for towing and I am on Top Of The World!!!!
>    Seriously, why do we need all this crap that can go wrong?
>    My wife & I were at Silver Dollar City for the Thanksgiving lighting
> ceremony and when we got ready to leave, the security system in our 1997
> Expedition did not like the ignition key. Something about a magnetic
> detection coil around the ignition switch and the responder in the
> key.   A new Key was over $100. The dealer would not disconnect the
> security system for liability reasons.  He said if it was stolen he
> might be liable.   I told him that  in 30 deg Missouri weather on top of
> a mountain with a 30mph wind and 5 hours from home, I would have helped
> someone steal it!!!!   I posted a couple of times on the internet and
> the answer how to disable it came from an ex con who asked to be kept
> anonymous.!!  For a 10 yr old vehicle to worry about disabling the
> anti-theft system is ridiculous.!!!
> I have a 2000 C3500 that has a solenoid to prevent moving the gearshift
> without actuating the brake.   This gets screwed up after 10 years and
> can get you stranded and so irritated that when it happened to my wife,
> I thought she was going to break the gearshift!!   It took a while but I
> found the solenoid and removed it.  It works perfect now...  I also have
> 3 others in the 90's that are going to be removed......
>    Call me old fashioned, but I like to know that when I am away from
> home, I don't have to worry about some unnecessary toy making me freeze
> or burn my tail off waiting on help to arrive.
>
> End of Rant!!!
>
> Cecil in OKla
>
>
>
> On 9/13/2012 8:08 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>> Oh, I never mentioned the reason they eventually found.  The car, if
>> locked when the trunk is opened , will re-lock itself when you shut the
>> trunk so that the trunk will lock.  Pretty handy except apparently there
>> was a bug that caused the car to relock itself every single time you
>> closed the trunk.   Not so handy if the key was in the car.  Again, this
>> only happens with some time period after leaving the car.  It doesn't do
>> it if you have been away for a while.    Took us a while to figure out it
>> was the car and not us.
>>
>> Spencer
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: Spencer Yost <yostsw at atis.net>
>>> Date: September 13, 2012 10:23:14 EDT
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group 
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Waay OT
>>>
>>> Welcome to the world of vehicles that try to be smarter than we are. 
>>> My
>>> wive's Volkswagen, if you open the trunk within a certain period of time
>>> after stopping the engine, will lock the doors when you close the trunk.
>>> I never saw my wife use a sledgehammer but I might yet....
>>>
>>> I was never able to get the "feature" turned off, except by the
>>> dealership who did it for free.   Next time they upgraded the car's
>>> firmware during a warranty recall, the "feature" was back.  Love that 
>>> car
>>> otherwise.
>>>
>>> So if you can turn it off, keep notes.   The feature will reappear after
>>> service visits more involved than an oil change.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>>
>>> Spencer
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2012, at 9:38, Ron Cook <ron at lakeport-1.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just got a 2004 Chevrolet Suburban.   First trip was to the Clay
>>>> County Fair yesterday.  Well, we got home and I shut it off, took the
>>>> keys out of the ignition and threw them under the front seat. Got out
>>>> and headed for the house.  While walking in front of the thing I heard
>>>> the doors lock.  Now I have this thing I cannot get into.  I can solve
>>>> that problem after awhile, but my question is: What the heck caused 
>>>> this
>>>> to happen and is it normal?  Also, if that is normal, how do I do away
>>>> with that annoying feature?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Ron Cook
>>>> Salix, IA
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