[AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump

Wed Jun 6 08:10:25 PDT 2012

I was just looking at that Charlie.  Guess I'm impressed at the size of the 
belt used and also was wondering just how much of a draft these pumps would 
pull.  Any idea how deep your well was?

  I remember now that after using my pump and draining, the sucker washers 
(leather) dried and stuck to the cylinder.  I flooded them with water until 
they freed up and now use vegetable oil to prevent sticking.  Leather 
doesn't like automotive lubes so I'm told.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump

> Very interesting Richard.   I'm hoping I'll hear from the museum in NY and
> they can send me some of that kind of information but so
> far there's been no reply from them.   Did you notice the one picture 
> where
> the pump is connected to a large storage tank.  That is
> similar to the way ours at the farm was plumbed up only to a much smaller
> tank.
>
> Charlie
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> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Richard Strobel
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 10:22 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump
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> I've uploaded some literature I had.  Sorry, I can't read the writing 
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> so must have came to me via someother route than email.
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> Does show a two-stroke driving one:
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> http://good-times.webshots.com/album/582918101oBSoRd?vhost=good-times
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 7:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump
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> > Cecil you aren't butting in at all.  I'll gladly check that out.
> > You mentioned a pump you had.  Did you check on it?
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: Cecil R Bearden
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 9:26 AM
> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump
> >
> > Pardon my butting in here, but www.uship.com can get you some really
> > good rates if you give it a couple of weeks.
> > Cecil in OKla
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> > On 6/5/2012 5:49 PM, charlie hill wrote:
> > > Oh and I forgot to say THANKS VERY MUCH BO!
> > >
> > > Charlie
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bo Hinch
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 6:10 PM
> > > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > > Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump
> > >
> > > Charlie , at this time , I consider it yours . Now the only problem is
> > > getting it to you . I could make a small shipping palette to mount it 
> > > on
> > > and hope it arrives in one piece . What are your suggestions ???
> > >
> > > Bo Hinch
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:16 PM, charlie hill
> > > <charliehill at embarqmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > >> Rick,  I don't know how it's plumbed up internally but I'm pretty 
> > >> sure
> > >> that
> > >> Schrader valve is for the air charge.  Doesn't matter where it is as
> > >> air
> > >> rises above water.  I could be wrong though.
> > >> I'm not asking you to take yours apart because there is oil in there
> > >> but
> > >> you
> > >> are right.  Just pull the bolts out of the flange behind the flywheel
> > >> and
> > >> the crank assembly comes out but I really
> > >> hate for you to do that.  It's a pain to do it.   Bo and I might be
> > >> able
> > >> to
> > >> work out a deal on the pump he has if we can figure out a deal.
> > >>
> > >> Charlie
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Richard Strobel
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 1:15 PM
> > >> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > >> Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump
> > >>
> > >> I think you're right Charlie.  I didn't get any pulsations from that
> > >> port
> > >> so
> > >> figgered it was right.  I also tunnel visioned that the Schrader was
> > >> used
> > >> for blowing the pump out for winter.  If I were to recharge the
> > >> Accumulator,
> > >> I would have put the Schrader on top of the tank.  But anyway, neat
> > >> stuff
> > >> and always willing to learn.
> > >>    I did have it belted up to my 2hp Fairbanks-Morse "Salt block"
> > >> engine
> > >> and
> > >> seemed to do just fine.
> > >>
> > >>   Tomorrow I'll take a look at it and see what it takes to get to the
> > >> rod.
> > >> If I remember correctly, a few bolts and it will be out.  I'll keep
> > >> this
> > >> conversation in my inbox so I don't forget.
> > >>
> > >>    Just remembered, I think I got my sucker leather washers from the
> > >> man
> > >> you
> > >> mentioned earlier.
> > >>
> > >> Lots of fun!!
> > >> Rick
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "charlie hill"<charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> > >> To: "Antique tractor email discussion
> > >> group"<at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 8:13 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Rick,  you've been so nice to post your pictures that I hate to be
> > >>> critical
> > >>> but let me offer this comment, not
> > >>> about your pump but on your plumbing.  I believe that you shouldn't
> > >>> have
> > >>> water exiting the pump from the
> > >>> hole you show in your "squirting" pictures.  I've thought about how
> > >>> ours
> > >>> was
> > >>> at the farm and looked at the
> > >>> one I have here and also at this video.
> > >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dWh9KdF1PM
> > >>> I think the video has it right.  The water should exit from the 
> > >>> where
> > >>> you
> > >>> have a pipe plug in the picture you call
> > >>> "side view".  The pipe plug below the pressure tank.  The tank 
> > >>> should
> > >>> always
> > >>> be pressurized. That is why that
> > >>> Schrader valve is near the bottom of it.  The plug where you have
> > >>> water
> > >>> "squirting" should either be plugged or
> > >>> hooked up to a larger pressure tank.  I hope I'm telling you right.
> > >>> It's
> > >>> been a long time but looking at the video,
> > >>> I think he has it right for running without an auxiliary storage 
> > >>> tank.
> > >>>
> > >>> Charlie
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Richard Strobel
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 8:48 AM
> > >>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > >>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump
> > >>>
> > >>> Here's some other shots I took and uploaded to my webshots:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://good-times.webshots.com/album/582918101oBSoRd?vhost=good-times
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