[AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump

Wed Jun 6 09:32:53 PDT 2012

Rick,  I don't think any sort of pump will lift more than one atmosphere of 
head which is what ... 32'.... I think.  That's why deep well pumps are 
submerged and push the water up.
We had a very deep well, something like 200' but I have to believe that 
there was enough hydraulic pressure in the aquifer to cause the water to 
rise up in the well pipe.
I don't know how else that pump could have worked but it did work well.    I 
was a small child when the
well was put in so all I know about it is what I remember my dad saying and 
he's been gone for 46 years so I guess I'm not certain about any of it.  I 
am certain that he told me
it was a deep well.  He said he wanted good water so he had them drill down 
and through the first layer of rock until they hit another vein of water 
below it.  He used to say
how deep it was but I don't remember the exact number.  I want to say it was 
a bit less than 250'.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Richard Strobel
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 11:10 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump

I was just looking at that Charlie.  Guess I'm impressed at the size of the
belt used and also was wondering just how much of a draft these pumps would
pull.  Any idea how deep your well was?

  I remember now that after using my pump and draining, the sucker washers
(leather) dried and stuck to the cylinder.  I flooded them with water until
they freed up and now use vegetable oil to prevent sticking.  Leather
doesn't like automotive lubes so I'm told.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump

> Very interesting Richard.   I'm hoping I'll hear from the museum in NY and
> they can send me some of that kind of information but so
> far there's been no reply from them.   Did you notice the one picture 
> where
> the pump is connected to a large storage tank.  That is
> similar to the way ours at the farm was plumbed up only to a much smaller
> tank.
>
> Charlie
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> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Richard Strobel
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 10:22 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump
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> I've uploaded some literature I had.  Sorry, I can't read the writing 
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> so must have came to me via someother route than email.
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> Does show a two-stroke driving one:
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> http://good-times.webshots.com/album/582918101oBSoRd?vhost=good-times
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 7:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump
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> > Cecil you aren't butting in at all.  I'll gladly check that out.
> > You mentioned a pump you had.  Did you check on it?
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: Cecil R Bearden
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 9:26 AM
> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump
> >
> > Pardon my butting in here, but www.uship.com can get you some really
> > good rates if you give it a couple of weeks.
> > Cecil in OKla
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> > On 6/5/2012 5:49 PM, charlie hill wrote:
> > > Oh and I forgot to say THANKS VERY MUCH BO!
> > >
> > > Charlie
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bo Hinch
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 6:10 PM
> > > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > > Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump
> > >
> > > Charlie , at this time , I consider it yours . Now the only problem is
> > > getting it to you . I could make a small shipping palette to mount it 
> > > on
> > > and hope it arrives in one piece . What are your suggestions ???
> > >
> > > Bo Hinch
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:16 PM, charlie hill
> > > <charliehill at embarqmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > >> Rick,  I don't know how it's plumbed up internally but I'm pretty 
> > >> sure
> > >> that
> > >> Schrader valve is for the air charge.  Doesn't matter where it is as
> > >> air
> > >> rises above water.  I could be wrong though.
> > >> I'm not asking you to take yours apart because there is oil in there
> > >> but
> > >> you
> > >> are right.  Just pull the bolts out of the flange behind the flywheel
> > >> and
> > >> the crank assembly comes out but I really
> > >> hate for you to do that.  It's a pain to do it.   Bo and I might be
> > >> able
> > >> to
> > >> work out a deal on the pump he has if we can figure out a deal.
> > >>
> > >> Charlie
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Richard Strobel
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 1:15 PM
> > >> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > >> Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump
> > >>
> > >> I think you're right Charlie.  I didn't get any pulsations from that
> > >> port
> > >> so
> > >> figgered it was right.  I also tunnel visioned that the Schrader was
> > >> used
> > >> for blowing the pump out for winter.  If I were to recharge the
> > >> Accumulator,
> > >> I would have put the Schrader on top of the tank.  But anyway, neat
> > >> stuff
> > >> and always willing to learn.
> > >>    I did have it belted up to my 2hp Fairbanks-Morse "Salt block"
> > >> engine
> > >> and
> > >> seemed to do just fine.
> > >>
> > >>   Tomorrow I'll take a look at it and see what it takes to get to the
> > >> rod.
> > >> If I remember correctly, a few bolts and it will be out.  I'll keep
> > >> this
> > >> conversation in my inbox so I don't forget.
> > >>
> > >>    Just remembered, I think I got my sucker leather washers from the
> > >> man
> > >> you
> > >> mentioned earlier.
> > >>
> > >> Lots of fun!!
> > >> Rick
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "charlie hill"<charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> > >> To: "Antique tractor email discussion
> > >> group"<at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 8:13 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Rick,  you've been so nice to post your pictures that I hate to be
> > >>> critical
> > >>> but let me offer this comment, not
> > >>> about your pump but on your plumbing.  I believe that you shouldn't
> > >>> have
> > >>> water exiting the pump from the
> > >>> hole you show in your "squirting" pictures.  I've thought about how
> > >>> ours
> > >>> was
> > >>> at the farm and looked at the
> > >>> one I have here and also at this video.
> > >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dWh9KdF1PM
> > >>> I think the video has it right.  The water should exit from the 
> > >>> where
> > >>> you
> > >>> have a pipe plug in the picture you call
> > >>> "side view".  The pipe plug below the pressure tank.  The tank 
> > >>> should
> > >>> always
> > >>> be pressurized. That is why that
> > >>> Schrader valve is near the bottom of it.  The plug where you have
> > >>> water
> > >>> "squirting" should either be plugged or
> > >>> hooked up to a larger pressure tank.  I hope I'm telling you right.
> > >>> It's
> > >>> been a long time but looking at the video,
> > >>> I think he has it right for running without an auxiliary storage 
> > >>> tank.
> > >>>
> > >>> Charlie
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Richard Strobel
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 8:48 AM
> > >>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > >>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic Goulds piston pump
> > >>>
> > >>> Here's some other shots I took and uploaded to my webshots:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://good-times.webshots.com/album/582918101oBSoRd?vhost=good-times
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