[AT] What would we do without the JD hand cranks?

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Sun Jul 29 03:49:53 PDT 2012


Mike around here some places have a separate "ethanol free" pump off to the 
side with a price premium of 10 cents or so a gallon or some places
have ethanol free in their "mid grade" pump on the main island.    I have 
one store owner friend who has a Shell franchise and can't get ethanol free 
from them
but his store also has a small marina area for fueling boats.   He has an 
ethanol free pump there and buys that gas from a different dealer.   I use 
that
for my tractor and small engines most of the time.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike Meulenberg
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [AT] What would we do without the JD hand cranks?

Cecil, where are you finding gasoline that is 100% gasoline, here in 
Michigan even premium 93 has 10% ethanol.

Mike M


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From: Cecil R Bearden
Receiver: Antique tractor email discussion group
Time: 2012-07-27, 19:08:42
Subject: Re: [AT] What would we do without the JD hand cranks?


Everything has to be just right to fire off. I should ask: "What
octane fuel are you using in your old tractors. I use 93 Octane in all
my carbureted gas engines. I also try to get the gas that is labeled
100% gasoline, no Ethanol Ethanol can absorb so much water, it
screws up all the old fuel systems. Also, you cannot get the carbureted
engines to develop the full power with less than 89 octane fuel. The
lower octane unleaded has a surfactant in it to get the water to m ix
with the gas in order to lower the combustion temp to prevent oxides of
nitrogen.....

In other words, the refinery sells us water at $3.45 / gallon so we can
have less power. I know why, the EPA requires it, but it stilll does
not make sense.

Cecil in OKla

On 7/27/2012 3:19 PM, Dave Rotigel wrote:
> Hi Tyler,
> It's pretty clear that you were not holding your tongue in the proper 
> position until the last time you spun the flywheel. That, plus the FACT 
> that all motors are FEMALE, is likely your problem!
> Dave
>
> On Jul 27, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Tyler Juranek wrote:
>
>> Good day all,
>> I know that we talk a lot about the two cylinder Jd's on here, and so
>> I thought I'd share an interesting experience.
>> Here is the story.
>> This morning I went out to our family shed here, and started up the
>> good ol 36 A. Of course it fired on the seccond crank.
>> So with some sighted help, I took it down the road in road gear a little 
>> ways.
>> Then I turned around and come home. My dad had a meeting to go to this
>> morning with another guy, so my mom, who is my sighted help most of
>> the time when it comes to the tractor, went in and got something for
>> my dad. While the A was sittin there idoling, I decided I'd save a
>> little fuel and just shut it off for a bit.
>> So my dad is leaving and saying, "Now that sucker is not gunna run 
>> again."
>> Well, of course he was right.
>> There was no way I could've used my dad's JD 50 to belt start it,
>> because we were about 10 FT from the road.
>> I cranked and cranked, and couldn't get it to do a thing! Not even say 
>> pop pop.
>> So I just got so discouraged, I left it there with the brakes on.
>> So, jump ahead about three hours or so.
>> I went out there and shut the petcocks, as I left them open to let the
>> fuel leak out of the cediment bowl.
>> So, after shutting the petcocks, I set my throttle to the usual place.
>> I gave the flywheel a wirl. Nothing but a click.
>> Tried it about 3 more times with the same result.
>> So, I pulled the throttle back, and went over to the clutch side.
>> I put my hands around the belt pulley and spun it as fast as I could.
>> Then I did the same thing, accept when I got it spinning, I pushed the
>> clutch ahead. Of course it didn't start, since I wasn't spinning it
>> fast enough.
>> Before I went inside the house, I decided I better try the flywheel 
>> again.
>> So, I grabbed it, and gave it a wirl. Nothing but a click.
>> So, I did it again, and spun it again, this time a little harder.
>> You'll never believe what happened!
>> "Pop pop pop pop pop!", it said.
>> I couldn't believe what happened.
>> Just thought I'd share that interesting experience with everyone.
>> Does anyone have any idea as to why it did what it did?
>> Take care,
>> Tyler Juranek
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