[AT] Starter Gear Sticking On Shaft

Thu Feb 16 06:14:50 PST 2012

Ben,  the easiest fix is to put a new starter drive on it.  If that's not an 
option and you can disassemble the drive you have do so, clean it well and 
sand the contact surfaces with fine emery cloth, clean it well and put it 
back together.    As far as the graphite goes.  I'm no Farmall expert but I 
don't think there is any path for anything coming off the starter drive to 
get inside the engine. It would have to get past the rear crank seal to do 
that.  If your rear seal is leaking that bad you've problems beyond what you 
are working on.  I wouldn't hesitate to try graphite.  Even if it could get 
in the engine I don't think a small quantity of it would hurt a thing.  If 
it was mine I'd still be willing to try Never Seize even though the 
conventional wisdom here says no.  I'd put some on and wipe most of it back 
off.  Believe me you can't get it all off without a lot of effort, solvent 
and rags.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ben Wagner
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:45 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Starter Gear Sticking On Shaft

I had heard the same thing Larry had mentioned, but I have to agree with
everyone else that the current dry, clean state of the starter drive is not
allow it to work like it should.  All I am concerned about is preventing
anything dangerous for the motor from getting near my motor.

I'm inclined to try the graphite, but I hesitate to put anything like that
near the motor.  Wouldn't graphite cause the motor trouble if it found its
way into the case?

What about a little WD-40 on the shaft where the gear gets stuck?

Ben Wagner

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 7:22 AM, charlie hill 
<charliehill at embarqmail.com>wrote:

> very well could be right Larry.  Maybe all Ben needs to do is spray his
> down
> with carb cleaner or something, add a little graphite and put it back
> together.  I'm a big fan of never seize but maybe this isn't a good
> application for it.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Goss
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:50 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Starter Gear Sticking On Shaft
>
> Humm.  This is an interesting thread. I thought starter Bendixes were
> supposed to be clean and dry -- that putting anything on them would only
> work temporarily,and was an invitation to a sticking drive.
>
> Larry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> >
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:59:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [AT] Starter Gear Sticking On Shaft
>
> Actually I guess it's graphite in Never Seize and not metal as I said but
> you have a point about the grease component.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: charlie hill
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 6:19 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Starter Gear Sticking On Shaft
>
> Mike you may well be right.  I was thinking that the metal particles in
> never seize would do the trick.  Graphite might be better.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Sloane
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:00 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Starter Gear Sticking On Shaft
>
> I would be inclined to use something that won't trap dirt. I use
> powdered graphite for stuff like that. I know that all the instructions
> for starter drives say not to use any lubrication.
>
> Mike
>
> On 2/15/2012 3:06 PM, charlie hill wrote:
> > Ben, next time you pull it out and free it paint the shaft with
> anti-seize
> > compound (Never-Seize) and see if that helps.
> > I've had the same thing happen before on some AC stuff.   I don't know
> > that
> > the Never Seize will fix it but it won't cost you much to find out.
> >
> > Maybe someone has a better answer or idea.
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ben Wagner
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:49 PM
> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group ; Farmall/IHC mailing list
> > Subject: [AT] Starter Gear Sticking On Shaft
> >
> > Good afternoon,
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone else has any trouble with a starter gear
> > "sticking" to the shaft, not allowing the gear to go forward and engage
> > the
> > ring gear.  I have a new starter on the Super A, purchased about two
> years
> > ago, used minimally like most restored tractors, and this issue keeps
> > happening predictably.
> >
> > I have pulled the starter many times, and each time I have to knock the
> > gear lose with a punch and a hammer.  The gear is always stuck at the
> back
> > of the threaded shaft.  The shaft, or the gear, has no burrs to catch 
> > the
> > gear and hold it; burrs around that area was one of the first things I
> > checked.
> >
> > If you have had this issue on your starter, what have you done to keep
> > this
> > from happening?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ben Wagner
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