[AT] More engine issues

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Thu Jul 14 07:28:50 PDT 2011


Ron,  I started to say this in the other message and didn't.  Me buying 50 
Campions D21's for $.25 each fits into a woman's pattern of buying.  It s 
been said that a man will pay
$2 for a $1 item if he needs it while a woman will pay $1 for a $2 item she 
doesn't need.  But some times I find a bargain too good to pass up and blow 
my money.  grins.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ronald L. Cook
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:48 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] More engine issues

I am one on the other side.  I would not have bothered to carry them out
of the store.  There is a reason for the close out sale.

About 15-20 years ago I started to have troubles with spark plugs in my
tractors.  I was using Champion D-19 and D-21.  At the same time I
started having real problems with my Pratt & Whitney radial on the
sprayer.  18 spark plugs at a time.  I was using Champion massive
electrode plugs, REM40E.  I quit the Champions and problems left.

I never could get Champions to run to my satisfaction in a Chevrolet of
any sort.  However, a good friend used nothing but Champions in his
BB/fuel dragster.  He had 5 gal buckets full of plugs with 1/4 mile on
them!  Free plugs 5 gallons at a time.  I did use them, of course. :-)

Ron Cook
Salix, IA

On 7/14/2011 6:13 AM, charlie hill wrote:
> Good deal Dan,  at that price I would have bought them all too, even if I
> didn't need them!
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Glass
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 6:10 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] More engine issues
>
> I agree in most cases.  And most work fine when they are first put in
> the tractor.  The buddy of mine with the 130  was in the business of
> overhauling forklift engines for 35 years and he also said he wouldn't
> have believed it if he hadn't seen it for himself.  The first time it
> happened to me I just thought it was a quirk but it seems to be a
> consistent problem with other plugs.  I went into Tractor Supply a few
> months ago and they had about 50 D21's in their close out bin priced at
> 25 cents each. I bought all of them.  I still have about 15 or 20
> Farmall tractors so I will use them all.
>
> On 7/14/2011 1:41 AM, Ralph Goff wrote:
>> On 7/13/2011 8:35 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>> Well a 21 is certainly a hot plug.  Champion plugs in general have a bad
>>> reputation among tractor guys.   Like I said earlier, I've used them 
>>> with
>>> no
>>> problem..... that I knew of any way.
>>> A lot of guys run them in boat engines because they are cadmium  plated
>>> and
>>> don't rust so quickly in salt water environments.  I've run them in
>>> several
>>> boat engines.
>>> Still a lot of guys say they misfire.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>> To me a spark plug is a spark plug. Never seen any difference in brands.
>> I'll buy whatever is available as they all seem to do the job.
>>
>> Ralph in Sask.
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