[AT] Motor challenges of the modern? variety

[Louis]

Grant,

We used to have a 6-71 Detroit (reverse drive) bolted directly to a
Berkley 1500 gpm pump.  It worked great.  We had an electric primer
motor made by Hale pump company.  It took about 2 minutes to prime the
pump.  We had an 8" suction and a 6" discharge.  The suction line was
about 75' long and ran at about a 30 degree angle to the river.  

We also had a 2000 gpm Hale PTO pump.  We ran that with our John Deere
4440.  I know they were rated at 130 PTO HP, but ours was turned up to
175 hp.  It worked that tractor.  It used a 1000 rpm PTO.  

I also failed to mention we had a 90' head to push against to get the
water up out of the valley.  That was the main reason for the big pumps
and big lines.

Lou

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This might be an odd subject for the ATIS list, but here goes. I am in
the process of replacing a pseudo-modern (1970s/1980s) gasoline motor on
a pump with either a natural gas or diesel one. I have been looking high
and low for a PTO gearhead on the idea of a tractor hookup but found
that they are too expensive at the $5500 range. I should mention that
the class on this pump is near 100hp if powered by a motor rather than
am electric motor. Electricity is out because of the cost of hookup
(6-10,000 dollars) and the lengthy timing to get a connection thanks to
deregulation and the laying off of the utility staff and outsourcing.
Don't get me started on the bad news there!
     I see a possible Perkins 510 cubic inches Diesel V8 available
without a clutch and wonder how they might work and whether the old IH
Rockford hand clutch I have would bolt up - I doubt it. Also, I have
found a Case 1370 as a possible PTO candidate at 144HP - a 1970s tractor
without AC in the cab.
     Any feedback?
          Grant Brians
          Hollister,California vegetable, nuts and fruit farmer p.s. The
addition of two ranches this year so far has definitely NOT decreased my
work load! But my biggest non-irrigation issue is definitely personnel,
as in finding the right sales people for farmers markets and keeping
paperwork done. Sigh.


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