[AT] Talking about shops/sheds (hot water heat)

Tue Feb 15 05:52:35 PST 2011

Yes, lot of third generation furnaces on the market now.  Mine was installed in 02 and is serving well.  (caution, all outdoor furnaces like wood), so have good handy supply (fence rows, tree tops) etc.  Usually not a problem on a farm.  If u are older (take a trip to Cambridge, Ohio), Paul Bunyon Show, in Oct. to see all the wood processors etc to help.   The Ohio Farm Science Review, Molly Carron site, in London, Ohio in Sept and you can see all the outdoor furnaces in one spot and talk to sales reps and get all the info that u need.  Lots of improvements and yes, heat the house and the shop and leave all the mess around the furnace and clean it up in the spring with the loader.  

Now if I could get the wife to take a vidio of me processing wood you would see my MM670 gas running a pto, 3pt, Blockbuster wood processor, and being loaded with my AC 840 4 wheel loader with grapples.  
 www.blockbuster-inc.com or type in wood processors and look at all the goodies.  It used to be fun to cut wood when I had help, now is more fun to let the hydr. do the work (older is smarter-sometimes)

> From: charliehill at embarqmail.com
> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:17:25 -0500
> Subject: Re: [AT] Talking about shops/sheds (hot water heat)
> 
> Al and Mike, There are some new outdoor wood furnaces on the market that 
> are EPA compliant, use gasification technology and are highly efficient. 
> Al you could heat the house and the shop with one of these. The link is to 
> a model I'm familiar with (familiar from the Internet, not from actual 
> experience). I'm sure there are many others. 
> http://www.woodgasificationfurnace.com/
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Mike 1countryguy
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 7:13 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Talking about shops/sheds (hot water heat)
> 
> 
> If you build, consider hot water (in floor heat). Yes, extra expense, but 
> unless you are getting younger the warmth is constant, the temp recovers 
> quickly, and snow melts of equipment overnight, and YOUR feet are warm on 
> concrete.
> 
> My building went up 3 months after my two century old barn built in the 
> 1860's went down in the wind. It is 48 by 88, has a 32 by 48 shop with 16 
> ft ceiling (too low now), and a 16 by 14 insulated overhead door (to little 
> now).
> 
> Plan, plan and plan. Get some graph paper and then cut out the equip. size, 
> shop tools, work benches and storage and move the cutouts all over the shop 
> as you plan. Find a jib hoist somewhere and build the shop around it or 
> even some steel out of an old factory and go to an overhead hoist, but do 
> either of these first then build.
> 
> Even if u have to only build the heated shop part first, with deep concrete, 
> insulated under it and the the heated pipe (antifreez) (sealed system). Use 
> lots of rebar and a 6 bag fiber mix. (my floor has never cracked in ten 
> years). But took a yr of heat in the floor to get it Not to look like a 
> holstein with spots!
> 
> If you are a farmer/and/or have access to wood and want to heat your home 
> along with the shop, an outdoor wood furnace is a must (unless u have free 
> gas).
> 
> Just my thoughts about a building and yes, i did plan and plan, but plans 
> change too. Oh, plan for expansion....trust me the heated shop will save u 
> money, cause you can disappear whenever to a place that your wrenches are 
> still where u left them and (no snow on them).
> 
> I would be glad to share any thing else if anybody is interested (after I 
> get back from the National Farm Machinery show in Louisville, Ky.)
> 
> > From: jerry38 at windstream.net
> > To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
> > Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:39:04 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Talking about shops/sheds
> >
> > Al, just helped a friend finish out a 30x60 here in NW Ohio, $15,700 for
> > the polebarn with a 16x14 slider, a 16x14 overhead door, he has 14' eves,
> > one walk door and 2 windows.
> >
> > He floored 30x30 with hotwater piping, inside wall has a 16x14 slider
> > between the shop area and the storage area.
> > Concret is about $90 a yd or about $5 sq ft for finished floor, $4500
> >
> > Check around your area and see what is being put up, talk to the owners, 
> > if
> > you see a new one going up stop and talk with the builder, it's the best 
> > way
> > to see what is going on in your area, I'd bet you will not see any block
> > one, hope this helps
> >
> > Jerry NW Ohio
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
> > To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" 
> > <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 6:59 PM
> > Subject: [AT] Talking about shops/sheds
> >
> >
> > > Not to go into too much detail, my wife and I hope to build a house 
> > > soon.
> > >
> > > Along with it, I want a real, concrete floored, maybe with a woodstove,
> > > place to work on my relics out of the rain, shop. A good 
> > > friend/colleague
> > > and I were talking today, he's a licensed electrician and has done
> > > masonry/construction most of his life before he started teaching. We got
> > > on the subject of shops and I asked him what was the "best" in terms of
> > > cost.
> > >
> > > He's a big fan of cinderblock construction. I have always leaned towards
> > > pole barns, mostly from all of those beautiful Morton Buildings ads in
> > > Successful Farming magazine I have looked at since I was a kid....he 
> > > said
> > > by the time I bought the metal for the siding, I could spend about the
> > > same amount for cinderblocks.
> > >
> > > So I know this has been hashed and re-hashed in some way or another, but
> > > what's the "best?" Pole barn, masonry, or what? I want this to be my
> > > "forever" shop, and want it to last. I know it won't be big enough, etc.
> > > etc. etc. BTW I'm thinking about something like a 30x50 or 30x60, with
> > > part of it being bona-fide shop and the rest storage/machinery parking. 
> > > I
> > > want at least a 12' high door, for "real" farm equipment as well as
> > > antiques, 14' if I can afford it. What kind of cost/square foot to 
> > > build,
> > > etc?
> > >
> > > One thing I am thinking on is pouring the floor only for the actual
> > > "shop," (about 30x30)and having a wall separating the rest from the 
> > > "shop"
> > > and then gravel for the rest of the floor as a way to cut costs.
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > This is a bit rambling I know, but I'd like to get some thoughts and
> > > Ideas. The #1 consideration is cost, but the building must be durable.
> > > The whole thing may be a pipe dream but if we build a home as we plan,
> > > this may be my only chance....
> > >
> > > Have at it,
> > > Al
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