[AT] Talking about shops/sheds

[charlie hill]

Al,  if you can get your friend to lay the block for you for free, masonry 
block might be the way to go.  Otherwise, if you have to hire block masons 
and go 14' high on the walls they will be working from scaffolding for over 
half of the height of the wall and that will get expensive.  The only way 
you will ever know is to get quotes both ways.  I'd look at pre-engineered 
steel too.  They go up fast and are very durable.  I'm not a big fan of 
masonry block buildings but we have a small tractor shed and shop over at 
the farm that is built from masonry block.  It's 50 years old and never had 
one lick of maintenance done to it.  One corner needs repair now because I 
let an oak tree grow up beside it on the back corner by the woods.  I never 
realized it was so close until it was too late and had cracked one corner 
out but it's still standing.  Just needs the tree cut down and some minor 
repair.

Cold weather is not the problem here that some of the guys have to deal 
with.  I think a wood stove would do an adequate job for you.  The only 
problem with any open flame heat in a shop is gasoline fumes if you happen 
to tear down a carb. or have a leak.  Radiant heat is a good idea too.  It's 
fast and heats only the area where you are working.  I've got a couple of 
Mr. Heater propane radiant heaters that do a good job as long as they are 
close to the work area.

Charlie



-----Original Message----- 
From: Jerry Rhodes
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 11:39 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Talking about shops/sheds

Al, just helped a friend finish out a 30x60 here in NW Ohio,  $15,700 for
the polebarn with a 16x14 slider, a 16x14 overhead door, he has 14' eves,
one walk door and 2 windows.

He floored 30x30 with hotwater piping, inside wall has a 16x14 slider
between the shop area and the storage area.
Concret is about $90 a yd or about $5 sq ft for finished floor, $4500

Check around your area and see what is being put up, talk to the owners, if
you see a new one going up stop and talk with the builder, it's the best way
to see what is going on in your area, I'd bet you will not see any block
one, hope this helps

Jerry NW Ohio

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Jones" <farmallsupera at earthlink.net>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 6:59 PM
Subject: [AT] Talking about shops/sheds


> Not to go into too much detail, my wife and I hope to build a house soon.
>
> Along with it, I want a real, concrete floored, maybe with a woodstove,
> place to work on my relics out of the rain, shop.  A good friend/colleague
> and I were talking today, he's a licensed electrician and has done
> masonry/construction most of his life before he started teaching.  We got
> on the subject of shops and I asked him what was the "best" in terms of
> cost.
>
> He's a big fan of cinderblock construction.  I have always leaned towards
> pole barns, mostly from all of those beautiful Morton Buildings ads in
> Successful Farming magazine I have looked at since I was a kid....he said
> by the time I bought the metal for the siding, I could spend about the
> same amount for cinderblocks.
>
> So I know this has been hashed and re-hashed in some way or another, but
> what's the "best?"  Pole barn, masonry, or what?  I want this to be my
> "forever" shop, and want it to last.  I know it won't be big enough, etc.
> etc. etc.  BTW I'm thinking about something like a 30x50 or 30x60, with
> part of it being bona-fide shop and the rest storage/machinery parking.  I
> want at least a 12' high door, for "real" farm equipment as well as
> antiques, 14' if I can afford it. What kind of cost/square foot to build,
> etc?
>
> One thing I am thinking on is pouring the floor only for the actual
> "shop," (about 30x30)and having a wall separating the rest from the "shop"
> and then gravel for the rest of the floor as a way to cut costs.
> Thoughts?
>
> This is a bit rambling I know, but I'd like to  get some thoughts and
> Ideas.  The #1 consideration is cost, but the building must be durable.
> The whole thing may be a pipe dream but if we build a home as we plan,
> this may be my only chance....
>
> Have at it,
> Al
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