[Farmall] White Cub

[Bob Currie]

It's just dinking around with an old tractor.. Amen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Becker" <jim.becker at verizon.net>
To: "Farmall/IHC mailing list" <farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Farmall] White Cub


> Not that rare.  Among all the original, unrepainted tractors from the demo
> range that I have seen pictures of or even heard of, there are vastly more
> that were originally white than were originally red, probably in a ratio 
> of
> about 5 to 1.  I haven't actually kept records.  I don't know if that is a
> statistically valid sample or not, but it strongly suggests there were a 
> lot
> of white demos in the first place.
>
> Since the only difference between a demo and any other tractor of about 
> the
> same age is the paint job, counterfeits are not only common but
> undetectable.  Since there is no difference, as far as I am concerned the
> "real" demo that has been repainted isn't any more valuable than a
> counterfeit.  And as far as I am concerned, neither is worth more than any
> other tractor of the same age.  "Before" pictures don't add that much 
> value
> as they can be faked almost as easily as the paint on the tractor.  But 
> hey,
> value is a function of demand.  As long as there are people willing to pay
> more for a demo, they have a higher market value.  As more "demos" are
> created, eventually the market will saturate.  Unrestored original demos, 
> on
> the other hand, are hard to fake and there are fewer of them left every 
> day.
> Original white that never got the red repaint have to be the rarest of 
> all.
> They probably are worth more than their contemporaries.  After all, the 
> demo
> collectors keep buying them at premium prices and repainting them.
>
> It kind of reminds me of the olympian that was so proud of his gold medal
> that he took it out and had it bronzed.
>
> One other point, since the only difference between a demo and any other
> tractor is the "demo" paint job.  If you are going to restore a demo, you
> need to accurately copy the demo paint job.  If you make changes "because
> you like it that way", that is OK because it is your tractor.  But it 
> isn't
> a demo.  If you have things like a black starter, a blue rockshaft, black
> anti-slip on the platform or vinyl cut decals, it isn't a demo.  Again, it
> is just dinking around with an old tractor.
>
> Jim Becker
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Tractorman453657 at aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 9:21 AM
> To: farmall at lists.antique-tractor.com
> Subject: Re: [Farmall] White Cub
>
> A true demo is on the rare side. There are a lot of bootleg  demos out
> there too. The demo program was only run in the first 3 months of 1950 
> with
> the
> cub, super A and super C.... Just because the serial number falls into 
> the
> demo range does NOT mean it is a demo. I would suspect only   about 5% in
> the days production run were white.. white paint showing under  red is 
> good
> and if the serial number is right then that's a lot better. if white 
> paint
> is in places such as under the hood, floor board, on wire harness it is
> probably  a demo. Document everything with pictures. every step.This is 
> the
> only way to actually prove it was a real  demo  after restoration. I  own 
> a
> true Demo cub with documentation. I have been offered 7 K  for it but  its
> not
> for sale.
>
>
> In a message dated 12/3/2011 10:59:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> ejpuckett at centurytel.net writes:
>
> I guess  it depends on your location and who is interested.  Most of the
> ones  I have seen sell go about 10 to 20 % above the regular cub, though
> i am  not sure why, they are not that rare.  Some years entire production
> was less than the demo run.
>
> On 12/3/2011 7:16 PM, Kevin Bish  wrote:
>> I have a Farmall Cub that was a White Demo tractor. It would  need 
>> painted
>> white again to be like original from the factory, cause  it was painted
> red
>> over the white. It runs good. What do you think  something like this
> tractor
>> is worth, without being restored?  I  have checked the serial numbers
> with
>> some members on the list  before, and they all say it can very well be a
> Demo
>> Cub. I have a  couple guys coming tomorrow to look at it, and just wanted
> a
>> few ideas  about what to ask for the tractor, if I sell it?? Thanks,
> Kevin.
>
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